Sunni Path Fatawa Allowing Shirk

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Old 11-10-2008, 09:26 PM   #1
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The Islamic fundamental belief is that there're no one worthy of worship or being called for help except Allah. In a fatawa Shaykh Faraz Rabbni of sunnipath allowed calling other than Allah, which is a plain shirk. We do know that sufis consider permissible if one calls saints and others directly for help. Let's see the fatawa and sound minded people can deduce a conclusion about this website and their deviant believes:
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Question: I see on some internet forums, people writing such things as "Ya Ali I invoke thee" - I wanted to know is it allowed to say such things? Does this not smack of shirk?

Answer: Wa'alaykum Assalam wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatuhu,

In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful & Compassionate

There are a few issues:

a) It is a fundamental belief of Muslims that only Allah benefits or harms; that only Allah gives and takes;

b) It is also a fundamental belief of Muslims that Allah has created means for humans to take;

c) However, the relationship between these created means and their effects is only normative: it is Allah who creates the means, and Allah who creates the results.

This is why Shaykh Abd al-Rahman al-Shaghouri (Allah have mercy on him), the great spiritual guide and master of the sciences of faith (aqida) from Damascus, explained,

"Taking means is necessary, and denying that they are effective is necessary. Whoever negates means is denying the Wisdom of Allah, and whoever relies upon means is associating others with Allah."

This is the understanding upon which Muslims "call upon other than Allah." It is no different from taking medicine when sick, or going to a mechanic when your car is giving trouble: if you think that the medicine itself creates the healing, or that the mechanic is the one himself creates the fixing, then you have serious innovation in belief. The sound understanding is that Allah creates the healing when you use the medicine, and He creates the fixing when the mechanic does their job: we affirm these means, but also affirm that it is Allah who created both the means and the resultant effect.

This is pure affirmation of Divine Oneness. How can it "smack of shirk."

See answer(s) mentioned below.

Wassalam,

Faraz Rabbani
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The Pagans during the time of the Messenger of Allah (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) also believed in the same thing: they said that only Allah is the source of help but the idols are their intermediaries; so they directly called them. We do know that they were called mushriks in the Qur'an but as a layman i would refrain from saying the same thing about Shaykh Faraz Rabbani and let the readers reach a conclusion. This is one of the reasons why Shaykh Muhammad ibn 'Abdul Wahab (rahimahullah - May Allah have mercy on him) said that today's mushrikeen are worse than the mushrikeen of Prophet's (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam) time. Shaykh ul-Islam (Ibn Taymiyyah - rahimahullah) said:
Amongst them are those who ask from the dead what is sought from Allah; thus he says: Forgive me, grant me provision, aid me, and so on, just as a person praying would say in his prayer to Allah, and the like of these matters which no one who knows the religion of Islam would doubt that this goes against the religion of all of the messengers. This is from the Shirk which Allah and His Messenger has forbidden. Rather, this is the very Shirk over which the Messenger of Allah SAW fought against the pagans. Although, those who commit this Shirk may be excused for ignorance such that the proofs of God haven't yet reached them, just as those to whom the messengers haven't been sent are excused, in light of Allah's words: We do not punish until we send a messenger; otherwise, they would be deserving of punishment in this world which other pagans like them deserve. Allah has said: Do not make rivals unto Allah while you have full knowledge. It says in a hadeeth: The Shirk in this Ummah is more obscure than the crawling of an ant. As for those who believe in the Messenger - may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him - if it becomes clear to one of them the reality of what the Messenger has come with, and it becomes evident to him that he was a Mushrik, he should repent to Allah and renew his Islam; that is to accept Islam by repenting from this Shirk.
May Allah Ta'ala guide us all, ameen

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Shocking! How can people be as unreasonable as this!! This guy makes no point neither answers the question when the person asked about seeking help through virtue of Ali r.a. . He must be a shia and definitely non-sunni!
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^well, brother he did answer the question as he said that it is permissible to do so. As far concerning the raafidah (shee'a), sunnipath holds the view that they're not out of folds of Islam, even the extreme raafidah.
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Shocking! How can people be as unreasonable as this!! This guy makes no point neither answers the question when the person asked about seeking help through virtue of Ali r.a. . He must be a shia and definitely non-sunni!


From my knowledge, Shaykh Faraz Rabbani is not shia but barelvi sufi.

And I am not shocked if he issued fatwa that allowing shirk. I found, his fatwa that allowing use taweez became a popular fatwa for taweez users in many Islamic forum.
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