> Translation of a hadith musnad

[Abdul-Fattah]

Selam aleykum
Can someone please look up and translate From the musnad Ahmed: hadeeth number 11489?
Jazakallah khair

[salman]

wa'alaykum as-salam

isn't this hadith in regard to the issue of isbaal (garments hanging below ankle, specifically the men)?

Can someone please translate this for us, maybe sister ayah or one of the other sisters? Link to hadith

[Abdul-Fattah]

Originally Posted by salman

wa'alaykum as-salam

isn't this hadith in regard to the issue of isbaal (garments hanging below ankle, specifically the men)?

Can someone please translate this for us, maybe sister ayah or one of the other sisters? Link to hadith

Selam aleykum
Yes it is about isbaal, and If I can trust the French translation I found somewhere (which I don't trust because that same article has other dodgy translations), Then this would be the only hadeeth that speciefies that all clothes should be above the ankle, and not just izaar and the like?

[al-boriqee]

حدثنا ‏ ‏عفان ‏ ‏حدثنا ‏ ‏شعبة ‏ ‏حدثني ‏ ‏العلاء بن عبد الرحمن ‏ ‏قال سمعت ‏ ‏أبي ‏ ‏يحدث قال ‏
‏سألت ‏ ‏أبا سعيد ‏ ‏عن الإزار فقال على الخبير سقطت قال رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏إزرة المؤمن إلى نصف الساق ولا حرج ‏ ‏أو لا جناح ‏ ‏فيما بينه وبين الكعبين ما كان أسفل من الكعبين فهو في النار ومن جر إزاره بطرا لم ينظر الله إليه


Im a bit rusty since I haven't been translating for some months now

'Affan narrated to us that Sh'abi narrated to us that 'Ala ibn Abdur-Rahman said that 'I heard my father saying

"We asked Abu Sa'eed about the izaar and so the expert said the Messenger of Allah salallahu alaihi wa salam lowered himself and said the izaar should cover to about half the "saaq" (the shin) and there is no harm in this or with nothing hanging whilst between the ankles for whatever is below the ankles then it is in the fire and whoever drags his izaar is arrogant/ingrate who does not reflect/ponder/remember Allah about anything."


hopefully an arab may correct what i was mistaken in inshallah

[al-boriqee]

Originally Posted by Abdul-Fattah

Selam aleykum
Yes it is about isbaal, and If I can trust the French translation I found somewhere (which I don't trust because that same article has other dodgy translations), Then this would be the only hadeeth that speciefies that all clothes should be above the ankle, and not just izaar and the like?

I don't see that this hadeeth specified 'ALL" clothing. Rather it is implied in ALL of the hadeeth that is narrated on it. all of them say "izaar" but all of them are understood as any garment simply because what they wore was an izaar. they didn;t wear pants which is why some scholars (its a minority opinon, yet a legal opinion) that it is haraam to wear pants. Now, I don;t follow thi opinion, however, the point is, is that just as horses or riding animals are transported into modern times as vehicles, likewise the "izaars" narrated in those hadeeth are transported into current understanding to mean garments and is not specified with exactly what it is.