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| ![]() A very benefical article on ordinary (layman) Muslims attitude toward scholarly differences of opinion when grading hadith to be sahih (authentic) or daeef (week). Islamqa team explains this very nicely: Question: What should we do if the scholars of hadeeth differ as to whether a hadeeth that has to do with worship is saheeh (sound) or da’eef (weak)?Source
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If the hadith is da'eef, we have to completely ignore the hadith and throw the same to garbage, instead of saying "there is no sin" for not acting upon it if the hadeeth is da'eef. right? wassalam | |
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| wa'alayka as-salam Bismillah We are talking about ahadith which has to do with issues of fiqh AND the scholars differ over their authenticity. You are not certain that the hadith is da'eef because scholars disagree among themselves; therefore, it cannot be thrown away and you give tarjeeh (prefer) to one of the two opinions (i.e., maybe you trust one scholar more than the other or one scholar is known for more knowledge and piety). Moreover, some ulama say that da'eef ahadith can be acted upon in matters of ibaadat and fadhaayl given that they are not severely da'eef, and do not contradict well know sahih ahadith or an established principle. In addition, da'eef ahadith combined with other similar narrations can reach the level of hasan. Allahu A'lam
__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind: Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] |
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sooo much to teach you the methodollgy of ahlu-sunnah is much more contemplative than what your offering akhee. ALlow me to explain how dha'eef hadeeth are played in our hands 1. firstly, there are differing classes of dha'eef. there is no single idea that "your weak so your outa hear" methodology. 2. dhaeef hadeeth have classes, from partially weak, to severely weak. 3. many dhaeef hadeeth have what is known as "shawaahid" i.e. other narrational witnesses. In other words, if a chain is weak, there can be 1 or many more chains that also narrate the same event and therefore mark up the actual event to be an acceptable (hasan) reality. This is what is known as hasan li ghayrihi. This means that a chain is by itself weak, but with other chains, it is brought raised up to the level of being acceptable (hasan) and therefore not weak 4. dha'eef hadeeth were accepted (to a certain extent) in the issue of "fadhaa'il" or the realm of virtues and its encouragement as long as it did not undermine or go against what is known in the shariah from the Qur'an or the reliable hadeeth and as long as they were not severely weak, but slightly weak. 5. lastly, and I stated this before, most of the dha'eef hadeeth have already been opened, examined, and allocated in various academic works. for example, the Imaam of hadeeth of our time, Muhammad Nasr ad-Deen al-Albanee did a super extensive work, actually two works a. Silsalat al-Hadeeth as-Saheeha and b. Silsalat al-Hadeeth adh-Dha'eefa. these works are of immense value because it gave students of hadeeth and people of hadeeth the leverage, or at least strengthened that leverage, into knowing what hadeeth were weak instead of having to do the research themselves. Likewise, pretty much every hadeeth book that exist, has a commentary on it, and most of those commentaries have brought forth the authentication of a certain hadeeth (whether it was saheeh or not). | |
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| i just read Salman's post and just realized that I just stated what he said, only a bit more elaborate, but nonetheless, the same, mashallah |
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| ![]() can we take the discussion on specific hadith in their perspective topics please? It would make is much more easier to discuss and even building up the database. Jazak Allah khayr Edit Posts on hadith about women nullifying the prayer of one by passing in front of someone praying has been moved here
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