> Specification on apostasy

[Abd al-Muhsin al Hindy]

AsSalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barkaatuhu,

And about the question then here's a Small ebook whihc will clarify the matter for you(Inshaa'Allah) :

Download -

THE RULING REGARDING APOSTASY IN ISLAAM
Shaykh Rabee' bin Haadee al-Madkhali

http://salafimanhaj.com/zip/SalafiManhaj_Apostasy.zip


Secondly , sister, if you had read the next verse i.e 4:138 you would have understood that the verse you have quoted is talking about HYPOCRITES and not of APOSTATES (who publicly leave Islam, deny Truth).

[COLOR="rgb(154, 205, 50)"]Give to the hypocrites the tidings that there is for them a painful torment.[/COLOR]

- 4:138

Crystal Clear! your quoted verse is talking of Hypocrites and not of Apostates.Also have a Look at the Tafsir of it :

Tafsir.com Tafsir Ibn Kathir
Tafsir.com Tafsir Ibn Kathir

Inshaa'Allah, your question (So , not only born Muslims but revert Muslims will also be killed if they leave Islam ? Then the Quranic verse 4:137 is applicable for whom ?) is answered , its the Hypocrites.

AsSalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullah.

[al-boriqee]

Originally Posted by Muslim Woman

I am confused after reading this :

Muaath asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Musa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Musa requested Muaath to sit down but Muaath said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed.

This


is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed"

[SaheehAl bukhari (2537/6) and Saheeh Muslim


(1456/3)]

So , not only born Muslims but revert Muslims will also be killed if they leave Islam ? Then the Quranic verse 4:137 is applicable for whom ?

[Behold, as for those who come to believe, and then deny the truth, and again come to believe, and again deny the truth, and thereafter grow stubborn in their denial of truth - God will not forgive them, nor will guide them in any way.]

(An-Nisaa' 4:137)


This verse refers to punishment in hereafter , does not prescribe any punishment in this world.

Asalamu alaikum

the verse is refering to waver I eman internally. The hadeeth is referring to the actually apparent reality of leaving the faith wallahul alim

asalamu Laikum

[Muslim Woman]

InshaAllah I will read the book recommended here.

I read in an article that after the night journey of the Prophet pbuh , many new Muslims could not believe that and they left Islam . They got the death penalty ?

[salman]

^no, they didn't because
1) an Islamic state was not established in Makka at that time
2) I am sure this hadd was not revealed at that time

and Allah knows best

[Muslim Woman]

Originally Posted by salman

^no, they didn't because
1) an Islamic state was not established in Makka at that time
2) I am sure this hadd was not revealed at that time

and Allah knows best

so , death penatly is applicable if the state is Islamic ? What if most people are Muslims but the country is people's republic i.e many laws are there including non-Islamic and general laws ?

[binnasoordeen]

looks like no one posted the fatwa which Is available @ islamqa and I got a clear answer If any 1 is interested please read it in islamqa
Islam Question and Answer - Why death is the punishment for Apostasy

--bye

[Muslim Woman]

Originally Posted by Abdul-Fattah

Selam aleykum


.....I have seen hadeeth about muslims who came to the prophet (pbuh) and told him that they wanted to leave Islam, yet the prophet didn't react to it. .

bro , can u give me a link where I can read those hadith or if possible , post those here. Thanks.

[salman]

Originally Posted by Muslim Woman

so , death penalty is applicable if the state is Islamic ? What if most people are Muslims but the country is people's republic i.e many laws are there including non-Islamic and general laws ?

Yes, the hadd is carried in lands where Muslims are ruling. If a land is ruled by Muslims but complete shari'ah is not established then there is nothing wrong with carrying this hadd as long as the prerequisites are met.

Secondly, sister, all these supcious arguments should be refuted when we understand that there is ijmaa (unanimous consensus) among the companions (radiAllahu anhuma) of Allah's Messenger (sal-allahu alayhi wa salaam). Hence, two things are worthy to note: 1) In the shari'ah once an ijmaa is established then anything opposing is rejected and 2) no Muslim on this planet can claim that he is more knowledgeable then the companions (radiAllahu anhuma) of Allah's Messenger (sal-allahu alahu alayhi wa salaam).

Thirdly, please refer to following links:

1 - First Translation Project - "Killing the apostate if he does not repent" - First draft of the book which refutes suspicious arguments of these modernists against killing an apostate.

2 - Repelling Doubts about Apostasy

and Allah knows best

[Aayah]

Originally Posted by Qatada

asalam alykum

You can pose your question here too insha Allah:

Http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe

There are scholars and students of knowledge there upon the Sunnah who may be of help.

Wa Alykom Asalam

Was this addressed in Multaqa too? If so then can someone post the link here please?