This is a discussion on The Truth about Terrorism within the Other Religions forums, part of the iDawah Refutations Discussion category; First off I can assure you I don’t have any form of paranoia but thanks for your concern. Was I paranoid when MI5 told me ...
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| First off I can assure you I don’t have any form of paranoia but thanks for your concern. Was I paranoid when MI5 told me that they had murdered my uncles in Iraq ? NO is the answer. Yes, my username is a reference to Orwell’s 1984. I know that the mind control technology uses Electromagnetic Radiation because I was tipped off that it was being used on me and that this is the technology that they use. Since then I have carried out 6 years of research on this subject and I network with thousands of other victims of this technology around the world. However I should point out that none who I have networked with have been mind-controlled to commit terrorism. This is because the vast majority who have been mind-controlled to carry out terrorism are dead or in prison. In many instances the mind control did work upon me , when it came to making me do minor things. But when It came to their major agenda (terrorism etc) which involved the serious things I spoke about, I was able to recognise what was going on purely because of their simultaneous campaign of persecution and some people who tipped me off as to what was going on. My post was not a “cut and paste” job, and I have zero affiliation with Tim Rifat, I don’t know who he is and I don’t care who he is and have no interest in promoting anything except the truth. The only reason I posted the link to his website is that in 6 years of research on this subject of electromagnetic weapons his explanation is the best I have found. If he is promoting ways to block these weapons then in my view he is wasting his time because you CANNOT block these weapons. Your only protection is self-awareness. Like I said in my original post, I have no idea how this technology works. What you need to understand is that covert military technology is so far advanced of what is in the public domain. It takes decades for military technology to be drip fed into the public domain. The technology for mobile phones existed in the 1940’s as an example. It is important to realise that just because you don’t understand a covert technology and it is not in the public domain does not mean that it does not exist. It is right to be sceptical, and that is one of the biggest problems as the majority of westerners believe the biggest lies fed to them by the mainstream media. My only agenda here is to try and warn other Arabs and Muslims about what these evil men are conspiring to do. I can’t PROVE it, except but to try and convince people with the evidence of my first hand testimony. My way of life on this site is set to “other” because I don’t prescribe to a particular religion – I follow my spirituality, whether Sufism, Buddhist ideas or others – I am open minded and following my own path spiritually. The story about Omar Khayam and the fertiliser bomb plot ,which I referred to is here : BBC NEWS | UK | Fertiliser bomb plot: The story All I urge Arabs and Muslims to do, even if they don’t believe what I say, is to be aware of the possibility of it, so that if it happens to them they may have a fighting chance of recognising what is going on, and will not become a tool of the oppressors and their false flag terrorism. |
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| I posted relevant and ultra ultra sensitive information in clarification of this initial post before, but due to the site being modified, it was lost in the abyss of cyber space. Now, I have to recollect everything I said from memory and hope that it brings the intuitive and in-depthness, along with a piercing aid of reality behind it as my initial response was to this post |
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1. the first issue, is that this matter, is ultra sensitive material. In other words, it is under absolute classified material that such phenomenon is taking place. Do to the fact that I know the Americans like I know every single curve of my sweaty body, I am fully aware of their ambitions and to what extension they are willing to carry out their ambitions. And due to my knowledge of this, I know for a fact that this "leakage" of information would have never been brought out to a public forum as you have brought out here unless there were some ulterior motives by the very same people. Think about, Just as there is no way on earth that man in a desert planned and more importantly, "managed" to get three planes into U.S. airspace UNDETECTED and able to execute their targets without the foreknowledge of the Americans themselves. Likewise, there is no way on earth that these covert black ops agencies would even allow for such information to be leaked out (if it were true) without dear winston being gone, this whole forum shut down, and every member on this forum disappearing from existence UNLESS there is an ulterior motive BY these agencies. thats the first issue 2. secondly, If this thing were itself true, just look at what is being advocated "Mind control" mind control is exactly what it is, mind control. If what you say is correct and that others as well went through it, then how is it that you have somehow miraculously managed to escape the their mind control to the exclusion of everyone else who went through it. 3. Im as well cognizant of the issue pf "Psy-Op" i.e. psychological operations done by these agencies and as well with the military industrial complex. When I get a chance, I will post these reports so that everyone can have a look at what and how they plot, plan, and scheme. all of this leads me to my final conclusion 4. If this is true, then this plot is part of a much grander scheme in order to penalize or impinge on the forum and its members due to its mission, which is a mission unlike what is advocated in any other forum for the most part, or possibly aimed at promoting information here so that way it can be scrutinized in light of the public and thus cause a series of incidental and individual crisis. I know how dirty they can be, and I put nothing past these things. They are not called humans, and therefore one has to know their nature in order to not fall into their fitnah. we are talking about a group of people who did not mind to mastermind an attack on their own people in order to personify an enemy they needed to carry out their global ambitions. It is not too far fetched that this is a clever little scheme of these people to do this. If all of this is not true, then that means the entire incident is probably not true and thereby a hoax. if there are "many victims" of this, why is it that you are the only one who has managed to bring something as super secret as this on a public forum without these agencies having this forum and all its members disappear over night. Why has not others brought it out to light. And then adding to that of all places, you decide to post it on a forum with very little activity and very minute amount of members. ajeeb, You do realize that you have exposed (if it is true) a black ops conspiracy right. you do realize what are the legal, political, and international implications and responses to this event, again, if it were true. lastly, you are an unknown to us, even in pure simple Islamic ettiquette, we question the one who we don;t know of information. the fact that the only proof we have is your story does not give us anything of credibility. So if we can;t really do anything about it, then what is the purpose of the post outside of merely scooping up some adherents into this theory and going on a divergent tangent. all to awkward for me to accept at face value IN SPITE of the fact that your deductions were pretty much on point regarding this manufactured war. just as Rush Limbaugh is the expert of american ideological realities between american leftism and american conservatism, likewise, Im an expert on detailed Military American ambitions and the extent they are willing to go to unilaterally carry them out. I know things that can't even be spoken of on public domain or else. So I don't see how this story has some truth in it IN SPITE of the fact that I don't doubt that they can be or have the ability to carry out these mind control missions. I hope everyone reflects on the above | |
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| as for my vote on the topic all of the above 1. these saudis were used as pawns in the grand scheme of the plotters in order for their agenda to be pushed 2. the americans masterminded and aided the effort 3. Im sure, since its america, that isra'el knew about it as well 4. and possibly, it was known by "others" when people dress up what is going on in the myth of idealism then know that its a fairy tale and they are living in disney land. |
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| Quote: “I know for a fact that this "leakage" of information would have never been brought out to a public forum as you have brought out here unless there were some ulterior motives by the very same people. […] Likewise, there is no way on earth that these covert black ops agencies would even allow for such information to be leaked out (if it were true) without dear winston being gone, this whole forum shut down, and every member on this forum disappearing from existence UNLESS there is an ulterior motive BY these agencies.” You are right to be ultra sceptical about this and to suspect a hidden agenda from the masters of deception and disinformation. I would like to explain how and why I came to the point of revealing my experiences. All I can say is that they have made my life almost unbearable over the last six years through their persecution. When the persecution began I was very afraid as I thought I was going to be killed. I was warned not to go on the internet. It took me two years to get the courage to start even reading tings on the internet that I thought might get me in more trouble. When this happened to me, all I wanted was for it to stop and to be free again and therefore did not do anything that I thought might provoke them into making things worse for me. I waited one year, two years, and so on in the hope that my nightmare may end, only it carried on. As time went by and my despair grew, I began not to care what they did to me anymore, as my life could not really get any worse. So I started writing letters to people in power, humanitarian groups and others telling them what I know. I had very few replies. I began networking with other victims of mind control technology and electromagnetic torture. Now, why haven’t they killed me ? I believe that they haven’t done so because they have the almost perfect weapon, in which it is very hard to scientifically prove the effects of. I think they realise that it doesn’t matter how many people I tell and try to convince - the vast majority of people don’t believe that such technology does or could exist, and that it is being used for this false flag terrorism. Those few who do know about it or do believe what I say can be easily discredited by them as ‘conspiracy nuts’. I have been posting on lots of forums and I think that if I did somehow become a threat with my testimony they have a thousand ways of discrediting me. What it is important for you all to understand is that I don’t CARE if they do kill me, such is the nature of the persecution against me. My only hope is that I can educate my fellow human beings as to this evil agenda and if I thwart just a tiny amount of their disgusting plans I will die a happy man. Quote “If what you say is correct and that others as well went through it, then how is it that you have somehow miraculously managed to escape the their mind control to the exclusion of everyone else who went through it.” I know I am not the only one has escaped their mind control, all I said in my post was that I have not come across any others like myself. I am sure there are others and would dearly like to find them which isn’t an easy thing to do. As to why I escaped – well all I can say is that I can’t explain that except to say that we live in a mysterious universe and I don’t pretend to understand why things happen. __________________________________________________ ____________________ Quote “if there are "many victims" of this, why is it that you are the only one who has managed to bring something as super secret as this on a public forum without these agencies having this forum and all its members disappear over night. Why has not others brought it out to light. And then adding to that of all places, you decide to post it on a forum with very little activity and very minute amount of members” __________________________________________________ ___________________ Yes there are many many victims of electromagnetic torture and mind control. It is not super secret. Search the web for “mind control” and you will find a massive amount of forums for victims and information about it. What is still secret is that they are using this technology to force Muslims to be suicide bombers. All I can say is that if they wanted to kill everyone who I have told on internet forums they would have to kill many thousands of people. Why don’t they close the forums down ? Well, I think that there are many people all over the internet saying all kinds of things against the establishment – such as the many forums saying that America carried out 9/11 with masses of evidence to prove this and those forums don’t get closed down and they don’t kill the people saying these things. I think that they are not able to go around killing everyone who finds out the truth about things and then tells people on the internet. I believe that they don’t feel the need to silence all dissent because they have managed to program the vast majority of the population that you can’t trust anything anyone says on the internet, you can only trust the mainstream media (which they obviously control). So they have a clever filter in place, which makes it very difficult for people like me to convince anyone. I don’t know why other victims of what they have done to me have not brought it to light – I can’t answer that. I didn’t know that this forum had a small amount of members. I simply post to anywhere I think Muslims might read my post. My only agenda is to warn people about what these destroyers are up to. Quote “you do realize what are the legal, political, and international implications and responses to this event, again, if it were true.” No I don’t – I have no idea of the implications. I would hope that when this came to light the perpetrators will face justice, the victims recognised and the policy to end, never to be repeated. Quote “the only proof we have is your story does not give us anything of credibility. So if we can;t really do anything about it, then what is the purpose of the post outside of merely scooping up some adherents into this theory and going on a divergent tangent.” Yes, we CAN do something about it , if enough people know it is happening it CAN be stopped. Most importantly, if people are educated about it and have the knowledge it makes it much much harder for them to ‘successfully’ use this technology on people. ‘Liberty cannot be preserved without general knowledge amongst the people’ Quote “So I don't see how this story has some truth in it IN SPITE of the fact that I don't doubt that they can be or have the ability to carry out these mind control missions.” My goal is to convince people which is hard. However I have had some very small recognition with some high up people. I have a letter from Noam Chomsky which states : “Dear Mr *******, I am sorry, in fact appalled, to learn about what you have been forced to endure. I wish I could do something to help, but I am afraid I have no way to do so. Even publication would be useless, because I have no evidence. Sincerely , Noam Chomsky” Fred Burks is a former Interpreter to Bush and Clinton. He resigned in 2004. He now runs a website called wanttoknow.info. Here’s the article about his resignation in the Washington post : Interpreter Says No to Secrecy (washingtonpost.com) I emailed him with the exact same text as my original post here. This is his email reply: “Hi Winston, Thanks so much for sharing your story. I am very aware of all of this and how it works. You might appreciate a summary which deals with some of these things at: Mind Controllers - Dr. Armen Victorian A highly revealing Washington Post article also has some info: Electronic Harassment: Voices in the Head The word is slowly getting out. Key people who have influence are becoming more aware of these things and doing what they can to stop it. I apologize in the name of humanity for what they are doing to you and to so many. May we live to see all of this transform. You take care. With best wishes, Fred Burks for WantToKnow.info” |
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| I forgot to add that I am happy to meet anyone who is legitimate, in person, in the London and South-east region who wishes to do so, to discuss this. Also, if anyone does believe my information and testimony, and can suggest any popular forums that they think I should share my information with, then please let me know. Also, if you know of any influential Muslims I should write to, also please let me know. |
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| The only question that came to my mind is why would they use that special technique on you to make you go to Iraq and fight when there are plenty of people who would like that sort of thing and are not being electromagnetically forced into it. (I know them personally.) |
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| Oh, I mean, I don't doubt that there is a form of mind control going on in this world, it certainly is, but it's the one that you get when you start visiting certain internet pages, watching certain videos, surrounding yourself with certain people. I've seen very close people fall into a big trap and ending almost totally brainwashed, but with no addition of any ultra cool modern technology. And I myself had been fooled by such things for a part of my life, so I know what I'm talking about. I don't believe in mind control that is total, it can only hint you some ideas, but it's up to the person to fall for it or realise its error. |
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