The Truth about Terrorism

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Old 06-11-2009, 08:21 PM   #1
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For those who seek the truth and struggle to remain free from the brain-washing of the lying corporate media and government propagandists I would like to share my experiences and resulting knowledge about what is going on.

I am Iraqi, born in and living in England. From 2003 onwards MI5 began using electromagnetic mind-control technology on me to try and make me go to Iraq and become an insurgent and fight the Americans. I was fortunate in that I recognized what they were doing. This technology places overwhelming thoughts and desires into your mind to carry something out even if it goes completely against your nature.

Over the next few years MI6 murdered two of my uncles in Iraq to try and provoke me into becoming an insurgent. When that didn't work they tried to make me become a terrorist in England. Because of my self-awareness of what was going on and what they were doing I became very angry and protested vehemently against the Iraq war. Eventually they realised I wasn't going to fall into their carefully laid trap and they then proceeded to destroy my life and discredit me. The principle thing they have done since then (since 2004) is use Electromagnetic weapons upon me to physically and mentally torture me and deprive me of sleep. I have been unemployed for 6 years and have no hope of getting a job such is their immense control over society. The torture happens the same whatever country I go to. There are many, many other victims of these electromagnetic weapons all over the World.

It does sound unbelievable, but I can assure you that the western security forces have the technology to mind control people into becoming suicide bombers as they have tried to do to me. I have absolutely NO idea how the technology works but after 6 years of research the best explanation I have found is here :

MICROWAVE MIND CONTROL by Tim Rifat

Due to my experiences I have realised the following :

- The War on Terror is fake and manufactured
- They have created an enemy to justify and create war. The western security services are engineering false flag operations
- The VAST majority of so-called suicide bombings carried out around the world, including 9/11, Istanbul, Madrid, Bali, London, Mumbai have been carried out by Muslims being MADE to do these bombings by the Western Security Forces using Electromagnetic Mind Control technology
- The 1 million plus Iraqis killed in 'sectarian' violence have been murdered by these same Western Intelligence agencies making people blow themselves up by using mind-control technology upon them
- Before America and Britain turned up in Iraq there had never been any history of sectarian violence in Iraq
- They have now extended this psychopathic policy to Pakistan
- They wanted a war between the West and Islam, but they needed to manufacture an enemy and to manufacture terrorists which is exactly what they have been doing.
- Their goals may be money and power from oil and defence contracts and zionist interests

There is a guy called Omar Khayyam who is in prison for life in England for storing a large quantity of fertiliser in a bomb plot. That was supposed to be me. He is younger than me, but went to the same school as me. Unfortunately he gave in to the mind control technology. May others have the strength to resist it and the plans of these evil men who destroy our World.
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Selam aleykum
deer brother, I'm sorry to hear about the distress that you have endured. May Allah subhana wa ta'ala make things easy for you. Of course I give you the benefit of the doubt, just as I would give to someone else. But all the same I would like to encourage you to seek professional counseling to make sure you don't have paranoia. Just look at it as "covering all the bases".

I made my highschool thesis about microwaves So I know a thing or two about it, though I grant I'm not an expert. From the limited amount of knowledge I have on the subject:
- Electromagnetic (EM)-waves are found various frequencies and wavelenghths. Microwaves are a very specific kind of those waves, and they are very damaging. Using them on people can cause intense pain and burns using them on someone's brain would probably cause brain-damage.

- There are other EM-waves that might be less damaging. Those waves can still create side-effects as listed on the link you provided. Many independent studies have been conducted to test whether or not EM-waves like: radio-waves cellular-phone-waves, random EM-waves emitted by electrical wires and applications, and so on ... can cause sideeffects as nausia, (chronical) headaches, fatigue and perhaps even depression.

- However there is no indication, no research, and no obvious way to "implant an idea" with these waves. That is to say; all these effects that have been studied are side-effects of interference. I strongly doubt they can program a wave to brainwash someone. To explain why I doubt the possibility of such an appliance; consider this analogy:
Let's say you have a cell phone, and I want to hack it with a EM-transmitter. First I need to figure out the wavelength your cell operates on, then I need to know the code that the SIM-card of your serviceprovider responds to. Then I need to write a program to hack it, and then send that in a wave with a powerful transmitter. It's a lot of work, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's doable because a phone works on a (relativly) straightforward and strict principle. The human mind on the other hand is infinitely more complex and individual. For starters, our brain doesn't work on waves. Brainwaves are a by-product. So It's not like you can get access by hacking those waves. Our brain works on electrical impulses. A second problem is that these impulses are not in a specific code, so there's no "code" to break or manipulate in the first place. That is because the brain doesn't create diversity by having different codes, like a computer does, but rather it creates diversity by having the same impulses on different locations. Each location is specific to a thought a feeling memory a concept or even a process (like breathing, heartbeat and so on) and so on. Technically there's been experiment with EM-wave-helmets stimulating certain areas of the brain to create a certain felling. Like there this region in the brain, if stimulated that would allegedly cause a sincere feeling of religiousness. Debatable as that research is, even if we would grant that the tests have been interpreted correctly; that's still a far way from brainwashing. And raises a whole bunch of new practical problems:
You would have to wear the helmet in order for it to work. Transmitting from a distance won't work because you won't be accurate enough. Also because the subject would have to stand perfectly still, or the transmitter would have to be perfectly synchronize with his movements. Also because the transmitter would have to be very sensitive (if the idea is to stimulate the brain, not to fry it) so the transmitter would get interference from all electrical devices around you, and all other transmitters like cellular phone masts, radiomasts and so on. Yet another technical problem, is that each brain is unique in mapping memories/ideas/concepts. So triggering certain emotions like aggressiveness, sadness and so on, is one thing, but triggering ideas or concepts is not, since those will be located in different areas for different people (if those ideas exist in every-bodies mind in the first place).
Well like I said, I'm no expert. I mean, I didn't write this reply to break you down, and like I said I give you the benefit of the doubt. On another note I also do suspect that secret intelligence agencies of some western countries are playing a dirty hand in the so called war on terror. But I wouldn't have the faintest idea as to how they would do that and what kind of tricks they got up their sleeves.

Some other questions that come to mind:
How did you find out that they were using these waves on you?
If the waves didn't work on you, how do you know what they were supposed to do?
See, what makes it a bit hard to believe, is that it seems you jumped to conclusions here and there. If you would find a professional counsellor, he would probably ask you similar questions to point out where you have (apparently) jumped to conclusions. Or he would ask if you have any material evidence that speaks in favour of your case. Because to be honest, some signs of paranoia can be read between the lines of your story. That of course doesn't actually mean that you are paranoid, it could be a coincidence that some tell-tale signs are there. So like I said, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but still you'd probably be wise to cover all the bases. Especially if these events, and your perception of them seriously damage the quality of your life. If it turns out to be paranoia, then a professional counsellor might be able to help you. If it is not paranoia, at worst you wasted a couple of pounds, but at least you can rule out that possibility, and perhaps find some peace of mind in that.

Either way, whatever you do I do hope you drop in once in a while. We have many articles on this forum that might benefit you. Also some explaining why terrorism doesn't belong in Islam to. Let us know how things are going. And again, may Allah subhana wa ta'ala guide you and make things easy for you.

PS: I take it your username is a George Orwell reference? ^_^
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^wasn't that character in 1984? It was a well written book and remains my favourite fictional book.
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Salam a leikum

The post by ''winston'' is obviously a cut and paste (whack)job... it's just a marketing scheme by that ''Tim Rifat'' who claims to be a ''Psychic''


Just letting everyone know (I don't know why my previous reply was deleted...)

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^walaykum as-salam akhee

1 - your post wasn't deleted as i pointed out the issue in chatbox
2 - would you please elaborate on this conspiracy or marketing scheme
3 - why wouldn't you give benefit of doubt to your fellow believer in Islam?
4 - what evidence do you have for such things are not being possible given the dark history of west?
4 - to me it seems everything to you is conspiracy

i wanted to show you something, but i can't find it now
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Selam aleykum,
Brother selamfromrom, there's no harm in giving people the benefit of the doubt. At worst, you wasted a few minutes of your time in replying, at best you might have helped someone in genuine need.
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Salam a leikum.

Well, for myself, I am skeptical of everything until it is backed up by at least some facts. If someone comes to me and claims he was abducted by aliens or brainwashed by some western intelligence agency into doing some dirty deed, I think a little bit of skepticism is only healthy.

I remember an ayat from the Noble Qur'an which goes something like this: ''if someone comes to you with some news, verify it, lest you should speak in error'' (I can't find the exact ayat , sorry).


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1 - your post wasn't deleted as i pointed out the issue in chatbox
I didn't know that, I don't really use chatbox, but Ill check it out, thank you.

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2 - would you please elaborate on this conspiracy or marketing scheme

Just check the front page of Psi-Lord Tim Rifat if you're interested. That guy is a charlatan.

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3 - why wouldn't you give benefit of doubt to your fellow believer in Islam?
First of all this ''winston'' guys has ''other'' set as his way of life leading me to think that:

A: It's an obvious cut and paste job
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B: He's advertising for that thief and scoundrel Tim Rifat.

I don't care what his religion is. If someone makes such outlandish claims and then just dissappears, it's more likely than not that it's just a spammer who is affiliated with that rimrifat site to spam message boards. For example they spam islamic boards with a message like this in which a brother is brainwashed and then conveniently links to the timrifat site which has the ''cure'' (crystal balls for blocking out microwaves and other nonsense, just check the site).
The pattern changes, for example he goes to christian forums and posts the same story only instead of a muslim getting brainwashed, it's a christian etc etc you get the picture.

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4 - what evidence do you have for such things are not being possible given the dark history of west?
well a certain degree of brainwashing is offcourse possible and very common. Just look at newspapers, tv, etc. They all push a certain outlook on life. They are at the forefront of changing public opinion, for example gay marriage 30 years ago was unthinkable, but now after years of ''will and grace'' and other homosexual characters on tv 24/7 , people have started to accept and even condone such behaviour. This pattern is repeated, and many things which were once unnacceptable are acceptable nowadays under the guise of ''progress''. Basically this is the best brainwashing method we have, offcourse there are some chemicals ''truth serums etc'' but nothing in the manner in which I think you believe the ''western intelligence agencies'' operate in. Things are still pretty simple, we don't have ways to control a human being 100% directly, and frankly I don't think Allah(swt) will ever give a human the power to totally control another human being's thoughts because that would negate the person's power to accept and follow islam.


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4 - to me it seems everything to you is conspiracy
Actually , with all due respect, I think it's the other way around. For me, there are not that many plausible conspiracy theories. Everything is pretty simple. The world spins around and stays the same. Conspiracy theories are mostly BS because people in general aren't that smart. You need only to pick up any newspaper and read about the latest ''MI6 worker loses USB-Stick with millions of sensitive documents and data on his way to work'' and other such embarrasing events which show that everyone is just as stupid as everyone else, even the ''intelligence agencies'' which are basically just a bunch of geeks with high-tech gear.

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There is a guy called Omar Khayyam who is in prison for life in England for storing a large quantity of fertiliser in a bomb plot. That was supposed to be me. He is younger than me, but went to the same school as me. Unfortunately he gave in to the mind control technology. May others have the strength to resist it and the plans of these evil men who destroy our World.
Could it be that he is referring to the March 13 , 1984 bomb plot which targeted the Omar Khayyam Nightclub in Regent Street , London?

I quote:
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''Police defused a bomb in a popular Arab Nighclub on the third day of a terror campaign the British Govt says is aimed at foes of Libyan leader Moammar Khadafy. Part of London's West End was closed to trafic for about four hours Monday night as experts from Scotland Yard dismantled the 2-Pound bomb''
Source: Ocala Star-Banner - Google News Archive Search


Or much more likely , ''winston'' was referring to this intelligent fellow:

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A man who dressed as a suicide bomber during a protest about cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad has apologised for his behaviour.
Omar Khayam, 22, from Bedford, "wholeheartedly" apologised to the families of the 7 July bombings.

He likened his own "insensitive" behaviour to the "provocative and controversial" cartoon publication.

Khayam is a convicted drug dealer who was free from jail on licence at the time of the protest.

He was given five-and-a-half years in prison for dealing heroin and cocaine.
BBC NEWS | UK | Man apologises for bomber protest


Convinced yet brothers?

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Frankly, I agree with the OP on some points, I.e that the fellow of Satan manufactured an enemy (Islam).
We were told again that Islamic terrorists linked to Air France crash and before like 9/11.


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those ''loose change'' vids have been debunked numerous times bro. Aside from that, this isn't even what the topic is about, it's about this guy ''winston'' and his pathetic attempt to plug the timrifat.com website.

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