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[Assad]

Dear Rama,

First let me tell you that we Muslims believe in the way of life ordained by God Almighty for us. The Religion of God is one but It's people who made many different religion including all the religions which we see in our world today.

Jesus, Moses, Abraham,Noah and All other messengers and Prophets bought same message from God, that is, God is One and He Alone deserves the right to be worshipped. Prophet Muhammad was the Last and Final God's Messenger who bought to mankind the Final Message from God and we all should believe in it to achieve the Pleasure of Allah ( Mine , Your and Our God).

Allah tells us in His Book:

Say ye: "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord: We make no difference between one and another of them: And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."

( سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)

Prophecies regarding the coming of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), Allah's Messenger, even found in Hindu's scriptures, In Vedas, which as you may know is the most Sacred of All Hindu scriptures.

• According to Bhavishya Purana in the Prati Sarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 5 to 8.
  "A malecha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking a foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mohammad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Maha Dev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the Panchgavya and the Ganga water (i.e. purifying him of all sins) offered him the present of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, "I make obeisance to thee. O ye! The pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malecha opponents."
  
  The Prophecy clearly states:
  
  • The name of the Prophet as Mohammad.
    
    
  • He will belong to Arabia. The Sanskrit word Marusthal means a sandy track of land or a desert.
    
    
  • Special mention is made of the companions of the Prophet, i.e. the Sahabas. No other Prophet had as many companions as Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).
    
    
  • He is referred as the pride of mankind (Parbatis nath). The Glorious Qur’an reconfirms this
    
    "And thou (standest) on an exalted standard of character"
    [Al-Qur'an 68:4]|
    
    "Ye have indeed in the Messenger of Allah, a beautiful pattern (of conduct)".
    [Al-Qur'an 33:21]
  • He will kill the devil, i.e. abolish idol worship and all sorts of vices.
  • The Prophet will be given protection against his enemy.
    Some people may argue that ‘Raja’ Bhoj mentioned in the prophecy lived in the 11th century C.E. 500 years after the advent of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and was the descendant in the 10th generation of Raja Shalivahan. These people fail to realise that there was not only one Raja of the name Bhoj. The Egyptian Monarchs were called as Pharaoh and the Roman Kings were known as Caesar, similarly the Indian Rajas were given the title of Bhoj. There were several Raja Bhoj who came before the one in 11th Century C.E.
    The Prophet did not physically take a bath in the Panchgavya and the water of Ganges. Since the water of Ganges is considered holy, taking bath in the Ganges is an idiom, which means washing away sins or immunity from all sorts of sins. Here the prophecy implies that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was sinless, i.e. Maasoom.
• According to Bhavishya Purana in the Pratisarag Parv III Khand 3 Adhay 3 Shloka 10 to 27 Maharishi Vyas has prophesised:
  
  "The Malecha have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in the country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance, the well-known Muhammad (pbuh), is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja, You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, "O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of Ishwar Parmatma, I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat eaters. My followers will be men circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution announcing the Aadhaan (the Muslim call for prayer) and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. On account of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmaans. I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nations."
  
  The Prophecy states that:
  • The evil doers have corrupted the Arab land.
    
  • Arya Dharma is not found in that land.
  • The Indian Raja need not go the Arab land since his purification will take place in India after the musalmaan will arrive in India.
  • The coming Prophet will attest the truth of the Aryan faith, i.e. Monotheism and will reform the misguided people.
  • The Prophet’s followers will be circumcised. They will be without a tail on the head and bear a beard and will create a great revolution.
  • They will announce the Aadhaan, i.e. ‘the Muslim call for prayer’.
  • He will only eat lawful things and animals but will not eat pork. The Qur’an confirms this in no less than 4 different places:
    
    In Surah Al-Baqarah chapter 2 verse 173
    In Surah Al-Maidah chapter 5 verse 3
    In Surah Al-Anam chapter 6 verse 145
    In Surah Al-Nahl chapter 16 verse 115
    
    "Forbidden to you for food are dead meat, blood, flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah".
  • They will not purify with grass like the Hindus but by means of sword they will fight their irreligious people.
  • They will be called musalmaan.
  • They will be a meat-eating nation.
    
    The eating of herbivorous animals is confirmed by the Qur’an in Surah Maidah, chapter 5 verse 1 and in Surah Muminun chapter 23 verse 21
• According to Bhavishya Purana, Parv - III Khand 1 Adhay 3 Shloka 21-23:
  "Corruption and persecution are found in seven sacred cities of Kashi, etc. India is inhabited by Rakshas, Shabor, Bhil and other foolish people. In the land of Malechhas, the followers of the Malechha dharma (Islam) are wise and brave people. All good qualities are found in Musalmaans and all sorts of vices have accumulated in the land of the Aryas. Islam will rule in India and its islands. Having known these facts, O Muni, glorify the name of thy lord".
  The Qur’an confirms this in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 33 and in Surah Al Saff chapter 61 verse 9:
  "It is He who hath sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it)".
  A similar message is given in Surah Fatah chapter 48 verses 28 ending with, "and enough is Allah as a witness". *

*Taken from IRF

[ramakrishna]

hi. all
I am unable to justify the gods role in the following case

i have seen few children born in poor family .. they dont get any food.. for them daily life is a big struggle, failures in every aspect of life.... because of these problems they are getting attracted towards violence, no mercy and things against god. Some of them are ready to commit suicide ..but not willing to believe god. (beacuse god has done nothing to them)

Now the question is... In the above situation ....who did the mistake.... god? or poor boy?
why god is not giving the same starting point (childhood) for all humans?
Is god biased towards few rich people?

Somebody please justify god's view on poor people and rich people...
thank you

[Assad]

Dear ramakrishna,

Thank you for your post and I pray to God that He guide you and than bless you in it.

I will rephrase your above scenario in the form of a question to help you better understanding.


"Is God pure, good, loving and fair? - If so, then where does evil, hatred and injustice come from?"

Answer:
Allah tells us that He is Pure, Loving, and absolutely Just in every respect. He says that He is the Best of Judges. He also tells us that the life that we are in is a test. He has created all the things that exist and He has created all that happens as well. There is nothing in this existence except what He has created. He also says in the Quran that He created evil (although He is not evil). He is using this as one of the many tests for us.

"Does God really have power of things? - If so, then why does He let people become sick, oppressed and die?"

Answer:
Allah has created all that we call the universe as a test for us. This is not our final destination. What we might consider to be "bad" or "good" could actually be quite the opposite. As regards oppression, this is something that Allah forbids for Himself to do to anyone and He hates it when anyone oppresses someone else. He does have absolute power over everything. He allows sickness, disease, death and even oppression so that we can all be tested in what we do.

Source

Love is a choice and we are human being and not robots that we should just believe in love just because we are programmed that way.

I hope this helps you and please dont hesitate to ask any other queries.

Thanks

[Abd al-Muhsin al Hindy]

AsSalaamu alaykum wa Rahamtullhi wa Barkatuhu,

I guess this section of the forum is my Favorite one .

Well Brother Acid my advice that you really do some research and post .
Well but its quite interesting to know that there are many interested in uprooting the evils of Sanatan Dharma.But I must say that the post are good for our Hindu brothers.....as it the truth not lie as the Hindu scholiasts say and write.
InshaAllah even I may contribute.

AsSalaamu alaykum.

[Abd al-Muhsin al Hindy]

AsSalaamu alaykum ,

Let me expose Sanatan Dharma too.

The Caste system in the Hindu Scriptures:
Let me be clear this system is caste not class as many hindus claim!!.Discrimination is done on the basis on birth in low caste.

(There are) four castes -- Brahmanas, Kshatriyas, Vaisyas, and Sudras.
(Prasna I ,Patala I ,Khanda I ,verse 3) - Apastamba Smriti (Or the Dharma Shastra of Apastamba)

So there are four castes in Hinduism(Sanatan Dharma).As stated by Apastamba.

Amongst these, each preceding (caste) is superior by birth to the one following.
(Prasna I ,Patala I ,Khanda I ,verse 4)- Apastamba Smriti

So the Highest is Brahman(Priestly caste) then Kshtriya(Warrior caste) then Vaishya(Traders) then Shudra(Servants).

What is the Duty of the lowest caste that is the Shudra:

To serve the other (three) castes (is ordained) for the Sudra.
(Prasna I ,Patala I ,Khanda I ,verse 6)- Apastamba Smriti

Serving the most high caste means is most meritorious:
The higher the caste (which he serves) the greater is the merit.
(Prasna I ,Patala I ,Khanda I ,verse 7)- Apastamba Smriti

This is just the start (InshaAllah) more to come.
O you Hindu ! Come see the Shastras and the ved, Purana what they say?

AsSalaamu alaykum.

[Abd al-Muhsin al Hindy]

AsSalaamu alaykum,

Well I am back again!!
So my researches are going on I will keep posting , I hope it would be helpful to someone InshaAllah.

So Let's Start :

Continuing with the Caste system;

Bhagvat Gita too is quite clear on caste system;Few Translations are here:

I alone have created in human society the fourfold divisions of varna (brahmana etc.) according to the appropriate gradation to material qualities (goodness, etc.) and duties (sense control, etc.) In the entire world, there is no other creator apart from Me. Nonetheless, although I am the creator of the natural gradation of human society (varna-dharma), you should know Me as the nondoer since I am aloof, transcendental to the modes of material nature, and unchangable.
( Gita 4 -13 Translation by Tridandi Bhiksu Sripad Sagar Maharaj)

The fourfold caste was made by Me, Based on guna and on karma.
(Gita 4-13 Translation By Swami Nirmalananda Giri)

The fourfold caste has been created by Me according to the differentiation
of Guna and Karma; though I am the author thereof, know Me as the non-doer
and immutable.
(Gita 4-13 Translation by Swami Sivananda Saraswati)

The fourfold caste was created by Me, by the differentiation of guna and
karma. Though I am the author thereof, know Me to be the non-doer, and
changeless.
(Gita 4-13 Translation by Swami Swarupananda)


So as we can see even the Gita totally agrees with the caste system , I have provided with the four translations, so that no one may allege me with mistranslating the Gita as its a well known plank of the Hindu's.

Reading the above verse its clear that god made the varna(caste) system, but on what basis! the gita claims on Guna(goodness) and Karma(actions), my question is how did god
come to know the goodness of the shudra before he created them and their actions.Or is it that god created the shudra with badness and to do Baddeeds!!!!!If its so than God is to be blamed and not the Shudras!!

So, I think the Smriti's are quite clear on caste system, InshaAllah I will post few more from the Smriti's and then jump to the Ved on caste system.

Think could God be so Partial and illlogical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Assad]

JazakAllah khair bro Adb Al Muhsin Al Hindy. You seemed to be very knowledgeable about Hinduism which not many people are familiar with. InshAllah all this material will be very useful for us to understand hinduism better.

[Abd al-Muhsin al Hindy]

AsSalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barkatuhu,

Shukran , Brother Acid for your comments , but I am just a small researcher with limited Knowledge.

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And now continuing with the CASTE SYSTEM THEME , Insha-Allah I will make the issue crystal clear for everyone here.

As said earlier , the Smritis et al. (shastra...etc) have sanctioned and encouraged the Caste system:


“The highest virtue for a Sudra is to serve the members of the regenerate castes. Fruitless for him is everything else that he may do.”
(Parashara Smriti – Tr. Krishnakamal Bhattacharya ,Ch. 1, verse 70) - Or Parashar Shastra.

Again from the above verse we see that a SHUDRA is just a SLAVE/SERVANT of the higher caste!! And his DUTY is to serve the Higher castes!!!

HOW DOES A SHUDRA GOES TO HELL!!!!!!!!!!::

“By drinking the milk of tawny cow, by cohabiting with a woman of Brahman caste, by discussing the sense of the words of the Veda, - a Sudra for certain merits Hell.”
(Parashara Smriti – Krishnakamal Bhattacharya ,Ch. 1, verse – 73)

Well , Again what Logic !! Drinking Tawny cow's milk could land you up in HELL!! And trying to understanding VEDA (YOUR OWN RELIGIOUS BOOK) and MARRYING a Brahman women (THE WOMEN WITH THE SAME FAITH).

“Abandoning the service of the regenerate castes, the Sudras who betake to improper occupations become short-lived beings, and undoubtedly go to hell.This is the eternal rule of life for all the four castes.”
(Parashara Smriti - Krishnakamal Bhattacharya ,Ch 2, verses – 14-15 )

Well this verse makes it extremely clear , I would like to know that if by not serving the higher caste a Shudra may land up in hell , and by taking improper occupation( occupations of higher castes) a Shudra may go to HELL . Than all the SHUDRA of our TIME are gonna be HELL DWELLERS as none serve the high class today and all are doing jobs other than that assigned by the LOGICAL , god.

Insha-Allah , More on this to come.

AsSalaamu alaykum.

[amar_labedi]

Assalamalaikum wa rahamtullahi wa barakatuhu

Mashallah brother I was really very much pleased on the way you communicate Though I am a Muslim but there is a lot to Learn about Islam.

I feel great on being allowed to be a part of your Esteemed Forum.

Thanks and regards.

amar

[Abd al-Muhsin al Hindy]

AsSalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barkaatuhu,

Women and their Rights in the Hindu(Sanatan Dharma) Scriptures:

Manu Smriti says :

“I will now propound the eternal laws for a husband and his wife…..”
- (Laws of Manu, Ch IX , verse 1)
Hence the eternal laws for every Hindu of every Yuga (of every time) are these.

Can a Woman Be Independent :

“In childhood a female must be subject to her father, in youth to her husband, when her lord is dead to her sons; a woman must never be independent.”

- (Laws of Manu, Ch V , verse 148)

Woman has no Choice of Marraige & Man is Dominant over Women:

“… (but) the betrothal (by the father or guardian) is the cause of (the husbands) dominion (over his wife).”
- (Laws of Manu, Ch V , verse152)

A Women must Worship her Husband as GOD let him be a Thief/Rapist/Terrorist..etc:

“Though destitute of virtue, or seeking pleasure (elsewhere), or devoid of good qualities, (yet) a husband must be constantly worshipped as a god by a faithful wife.”

- (Laws of Manu, Ch V , verse 154)

Widow Remarriage strictly Prohibited but a Man can Remarry :

“But a woman who from a desire to have offspring violates her duty towards her (deceased) husband, brings on herself disgrace in this world, and loses her place with her husband (in heaven). Offspring begotten by another man is here not (considered lawful), nor (does offspring begotten) on another man's wife (belong to the begetter), nor is a second husband anywhere prescribed for virtuous women.”

- (Laws of Manu, Ch V , verses 161-62)

“Having thus, at the funeral, given the sacred fires to his wife who dies before him, he may marry again, and again kindle (the fires).”

- (Laws of Manu, Ch V , verse 198)

Man is Master of the Wife Accoding to the Ved :

“Thou art the embodiment of gentlemanliness, the lord of wealth,the master of the loyal wife,…..”
-Yajurveda (Devi Chand, Chapter VIII, Verse 9)

“…O’ master of a devoted wife, full of prowess and semen, thou art the progenitor of offspring. Impregnate semen in me. May I give birth to a valorous son, in connection with thee, the impregnator, the lord of vigour, and the guardian of children.”

- Yajurveda (Devi Chand, Chapter VIII, Verse 10)

Usually Hindus et al. criticise the Marriage of Ayehsa(RadiAllah Anha) to RasoolAllah Sallal lahu Alayhi wa Sallam but in factuality there are abundant proofs in Hindu Scriptures command amateur ,girls to be married before their menstruation starts (Inshaa'Allah more verses will be provided to clear up the matter)but for now see this:

"A man, aged thirty years, shall marry a maiden of twelve who pleases him, or a man of twenty-four a girl eight years of age ; if (the performance of) his duties would (otherwise) be impeded, (he must marry) sooner."

- (Laws of Manu, Ch 9 ,Verse 94)



Inshaa'Allah the Post will be continued with more proofs and scriptures to be cited.