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Old 01-05-2009, 02:59 PM   #11
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Fear: Rabi was scared of many gods including Shiva and Kali.

He was so scared of Shiva that he worshipped him extra in order to appease him. But he still couldn't find peace with this god known as the Destroyer. In meditation he'd find himself in another world with Shiva and the thing was always threatening. As Rabi went about his daily routine those devils he worshipped would be slapping him around and causing him accidents. They hated his guts and wanted him dead.
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Transcendental meditation: The heart of Yoga. It can be a frightening experience for the adherent. Frightening psychic experiences awaited the unwary meditator, similar to a bad trip on drugs. Devils described in the Vedas were known to take possession of some Yogis. Kundalini power, said to be coiled like a serpent at the base of the spine, could produce ecstatic experiences when released in deep meditation or, if not properly controlled, do great mental and even bodily harm. In his trances, Rabi would hear "heavenly" music, see psychedelic colors, do astral travel, and have spirit visitations. He often saw Shiva sitting there with that malevolent snake around his neck. It is a fine line between horror and ecstasy. Rabi met the horrible devils depicted by images in Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, and other religious temples. Rabi was EXTREMELY RELIGIOUS and a family devil took over him driving him to beat others
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Mantras: Used in meditation.
The meaning of the words is not so important, rather it is the vibrations that they create that are the chief way of attracting "the deities" (devils).They repeat the same words over and over in Sanskrit, the language of the gods. More important than understanding the meaning was to correctly articulate the Sanskrit sounds. The gods come through the vibrations, not through your understanding of what you are saying. That's why Buddhism teaches people Japanese mantras but doesn't tell them what the words mean. People just go on like an ox to the slaughter not exercising any discernment.
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Karma: There is no forgiveness in Hinduism--only karma.
If you do wrong you will pay for it in the next life--this is working out your karma your punishment for sin. Each person MUST suffer for his sins. If someone is suffering in this life, it is assumed they are paying for some evil they've done in their past life--even though they don't remember what they did wrong. That's why they can walk by some low caste member who is dying on the street and feel nothing. Karma is the law of cause and effect which determines destiny/fate. For every thought, word or deed karma produces an inevitable effect. Karma necessitates reincarnation so you can pay for the sins you've done in your past life. Rabi once knocked over a Krishna idol (god) on the floor and wanted to say "Sorry" but he knew no apology would be accepted. The unchangeable law of karma forbade it. He would have to continue on the wheel of reincarnation. One transgression will keep you in the system. Reincarnation is a CURSE to the real Hindu. In the west, it makes people happy to think they can come back and sin some more. If that brass figure was god, why did it fall so easy? Why do Hindus have to carefully wrap their gods and put them up for safekeeping? Because they are no gods.
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Caste: A cruel system supported by Krishna in the Gita--probably devised by the Aryan invaders of India in order to keep the darker skinned Dravidians they conquered in quiet subjection.
The four castes are Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaisya, and Sudra. The doctrines of karma and reincarnation followed naturally, teaching that lower castes by accepting their lot in life could improve in the next life. The Untouchables were below caste and thus outside the religious system of Hinduism.
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HI i want to say two things ...
1. its very interesting to find some hindu stuff here... but the way you projected the things about hindus is different than what we(hindu) feel...
what we feel is ( may be what I feel is) .... there are different gods in different geographical locations on the earth just because of different cultures.
we should respect others feelings... ( in my viilage both muslims and hindus lives very friendly... not like you said ( may be you r true in cities of india...) what i mean is entire india is not against other religions... we respect the beliefs of other religions and their gods( jesus , allah etc whoever it may be...) of course ...there are few bad people in india who are against secular feelings... but not all people are bad ( say only 10% are bad 90% are gud). let them(bad people) go to hell...


coming to second point...
2.my aim is to know about true god.... so i started studying different religions ( not like you people are reading hinduism...forgive me if i am wrong) .. i mean i am searching for the positive things every religion (every religion has negatives tooo... but i dont want bad points.. i want only gud points in all religion... because my ultimate aim is to know the existance of true god)..
so i request you to tell something gud in islam.. and i have few basic questions to ask you .... only if you give permission...

my id is rama1729@yahoo.com ( the word "rama" doesnt mean pure hindu fundamentalist... I am a guy who wants to know the truth..)
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^Hey, Rama

welcome to Islamic-Life and we're glad to have you here. This is an open forum where you can express your ideas full as long as you don't violate the forum rules. I'm happy to hear that you're looking for the truth and please feel free to ask any questions that you may have about Islaam and we look forward to answering them.

Our aim is not hurt anyone's feelings and we don't dislike any individual. We basically want to express our belief using common sense and logic. We would be happy to hear from you again, peace
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Hi.. thank you for your response...
i have basic doubts..(i am new to this.. forgive me if anything wrong in my questions....all feelings are of my own ... i am saying sorry again if anything bad in my stuff)
1.how to treat others (neighbours).. like ten commendments in christianity there must be a set of rules in islam also...
2. i want to know the concept of god in islam.. (who is god.. what we should do to reach him... )..
3.what happens.. if we dont believe god.
4.is there a concept of rebirth and heaven/hell.
5.coming to the concept of peace
In hinduism ( i am very gud in this religion).. ther is a thing like "god will come and save his followers from demons(bad people)" thats what krishna and rama did. Few people are treating this as violence and war (perception depends on the people).
In christianity i think ther is no such kind(war related).. according to my knowledge jesus was a gud guy and said never hurt others...( ofcourse many christians are not following ten commendments...)
so i would like to know the concept of peace in islam...
what bothers me much is ... why my brothers(you people) are talking bad about some other religion....

6.In my observations.. what i have found is...
1.life time is same for all humans.. (aproxmately).. and death is inevitable for all. my strong question is "what happens after death?"
2.all religion people are facing problems (food, health, failure in life etc etc)
what i mean to say is irrespective of the religion all humans are facing common problem( are they created by god or somthing else..?). how can we say one religion is better than others... .Confusing thing is every religion is saying they are the best and only one(others are false..??)..


I am expecting anwers from you people... thank you in advance...
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Hi.. thank you for your response...
i have basic doubts..(i am new to this.. forgive me if anything wrong in my questions....all feelings are of my own ... i am saying sorry again if anything bad in my stuff)
don't worry about it

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1.how to treat others (neighbours).. like ten commendments in christianity there must be a set of rules in islam also...
to answer this question, you first know about what is Islaam. Islaam is not like many other religions out there and it is not a religion, it is more than that. Islaam is a deen (a way of life); Islaam teaches and defines us a set of rules and laws for all aspects of our life:
1 - Rights of Allah (God)
2 - Rights of Prophets and Messengers
3 - Rights of other Muslims and non-Muslims
4 - Rights of parents, spouse, relatives, children, old
5 - Rights of needy/poor, orphans and disable
6 - Rights of teachers and students
7 - Rights of neighbours and travellers
8 - Rights of animals
9 - Rights of rulers and subordinates
10 - Rights of enemy civilians
11 - Etiqutte of talking, sleeping, eating, washing, bathing and relieving
12 - Etiquette of Marriage
13 - Rulings on dealing in financial and econmical aspects
the list can go on but you get the idea. For more you may refer to Islam (a Complete Way Of Life)!, Most Important Islamic rights and Etiquette, Morals and Heart-Softeners

a glimpse of rights of neighbours, Shaykh ibn Ibrahim al-Tuwayjri says:
Islam pays attention to the issue of neighbours, whether they are Muslim or not, because of the interests served by that in making the nation like one body. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘Jibreel kept on enjoining the good treatment of neighbours to the extent that I thought that he would include neighbours as heirs.” (Agreed upon. Narrated by Muslim, 2625)

Among the rights of one neighbour over another as affirmed by Islam are the initiation of greetings, visiting him if he is sick, offering condolences if calamity befalls him, congratulating him at times of joy, overlooking his mistakes, concealing his faults, bearing his annoyance with patience, giving him gifts, lending him money if he needs it, lowering one’s gaze from looking at his womenfolk, and guiding him to that which will benefit him in his religious and worldly affairs.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The best of companions with Allaah is the one who is best to his companion, and the best of neighbours with Him is the one who is best to his neighbour.”(Narrated by al-Bukhaari in al-Adab al-Mufrad, 115)

Concerning neighbours’ rights, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “Worship Allaah and join none with Him (in worship); and do good to parents, kinsfolk, orphans, Al-Masaakeen (the poor), the neighbour who is near of kin, the neighbour who is a stranger, the companion by your side…”[al-Nisaa’ 4:36]

Islam warns against annoying one’s neighbours or treating them badly. The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained that this would lead to being deprived of Paradise: “He will not enter Paradise from whose harm his neighbour is not safe.” (Agreed upon. Narrated by Muslim, 64).
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2. i want to know the concept of god in islam.. (who is god.. what we should do to reach him... )..
for answer to this please refer to Introducing who is Allah, Meaning of Belief in Allah and Belief in Allah (God)

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3.what happens.. if we dont believe god.
we believe there's no salvation without belief in Allah (God), and you're eternal doomed once you die.

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4.is there a concept of rebirth and heaven/hell.
we don't believe in rebirth; we believe we only get one life and that's it. We do believe in heaven and hell.

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5.coming to the concept of peace
In hinduism ( i am very gud in this religion).. ther is a thing like "god will come and save his followers from demons(bad people)" thats what krishna and rama did. Few people are treating this as violence and war (perception depends on the people).
In christianity i think ther is no such kind(war related).. according to my knowledge jesus was a gud guy and said never hurt others...( ofcourse many christians are not following ten commendments...)
so i would like to know the concept of peace in islam...
We believe that Allah sent many Prophets and Messengers (peace be upon them) to convey His message and guide them to truth. This was His Mercy and Blessing upon the mankind so that He can test them (who believes in Him and who doesn't). The peace is brought by conveying the true message and people believing in it and practising it. Otherwise, everyone will follow their desires and set of rules which will only bring chaos to the world.

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what bothers me much is ... why my brothers(you people) are talking bad about some other religion....
like i've mentioned above, our aim to convey the true message and answer the falsehood. we're doing all thise because we care about people and we don't want them to cling to the wrong beliefs. Therefore, we use good manners to present problems in other people's belief system to use it as a tool to show them the truth.

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6.In my observations.. what i have found is...
1.life time is same for all humans.. (aproxmately).. and death is inevitable for all. my strong question is "what happens after death?"
we believe that this life is a prepartion for life hereafter. whatever we do here, we'll be questioned in the grave and on the day of judgement.

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2.all religion people are facing problems (food, health, failure in life etc etc)
what i mean to say is irrespective of the religion all humans are facing common problem( are they created by god or somthing else..?). how can we say one religion is better than others... .Confusing thing is every religion is saying they are the best and only one(others are false..??)..
we believe that whatever happens to humans is a test for them or it is due to their deeds. Allah says in the Qur'aan (interpretation of the meaning):
Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: "We believe," and will not be tested. And We indeed tested those who were before them. And Allâh will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars, (although Allâh knows all that before putting them to test). [29:2-3]

And certainly, We shall test you with something of fear, hunger, loss of wealth, lives and fruits, but give glad tidings to As-Sâbirun (the patient) [2:155]
There's only ONE Creator, who created everything! As far concerning religions, you need to study and learn and then use your common sense to make the correct choice.

i hope this answers your questions and I look forward to hear from you again, peace
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