> How do you bring a Hindu to Islam ?

[Najm]

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Well i have recently spoken to a Hindy friend. He is very open minded. He strictly follows the Hindu Scriptures etc. From my recent conversation with him i was very surprised how similar the beliefs of both Islam and Hinduism.

I main spoke about about Islam throughout the talk, after him asking me questions he had about Islam. They were mainly misconceptions which Alhamdulillah i managed to solve! Anyways how can i conviunce him to become a Muslim?

Here a list of things he agrees with.....

God is One etc pretty much the same as Islam
Dont believe in Angels but a "super-being"
Believes in Messengers which are called Avtars
Believes the Veda is of divine origin
Does not believe in reincarnation but life after death
Believes in Heaven and Hell
Believes in Destiny

Believes in also other smaller aspects such prohibition from alcohol, theft, fraud, bribery gambling, unlawful killing, indulging in women, hunting, fortune-telling as well as the "internal" hijab.

I have spoken to him about the Quran in detail including, the challenge, the science, the miracles, how it was revealed, some things about the life of , and the fact that there is no contraditions. as well as they various rights such as women, parents, non-muslims, neighbours etc

Also he really understood the term Jihad, and the rules of war in Islam.

So after all this what should i do?

Also how can i convince him that our Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi WaSalam) is the Last and Final Messenger?

FiAmaaniAllah

[Abd al-Muhsin al Hindy]

AsSalaamu alaykum wa Rahmatullhi wa Barkatuhu,

Well From your description, your friend is quite a good Guy, as major of the Hindus hate Muslims and Islam.
Well majorly all the Hindus are quite resistant to conversion.And they hate conversions.

Well , the issue should be taken carefully.First I would like you brother Najm to keep showing him the good aspects of Islam.And also see that does he have any knowledge of his scriptures and if yes how much?
And as you said that he believes in the divine origin of the ved's than i think that could add to your cause as the ved's are quite inhuman(sorry Hindu bros).

But First I would say ......show him the TAWHEED in ISLAM thats the beauty of Islam.And try to show him that Islam is really a good option. Because if yougo directly criticising his religion he may try to do so and everything can go nuts.

But even if you want show that his religion isn't Good etc. Then you can start with Caste system.Ask him which caste does he belong show him the discrimination in his religion...etc.

But take time don't hurry .....let him graps slowly.And the last CONVEY don't TRY to CONVERT. Bro Just convey the Islamic Message and leave it to him.

If any more questions do right .AsSalaamu alaykum.

[Assad]

First, I must commend you to start a peaceful conversation with him smoothly and taking the effort to convey the Message of Allah (SWT). It looks like that many of his beliefs are similar to Islam. However keep in mind that some hindus whom I call neo hindus are those who agree to everything as they believe in Dharama (The eternal law) and say, for example, that "Jesus, Moses, Ram,Krishna,Bhudda and Muhammad are all within us". This is where there absurd believes start. They also believe that they are Divine. There greetings like our "Assalam Alaykum wr wb" are "Namaste" which means "I bow to you/I bow to the divine within you/I bow to your divine".

I would suggest as bro. said above that you show him the beauty of TAWHEED and then tell him that Allah, The Creator want all of us to follow the way which he determined for us or the Dharama which He determined for us so that He may have mercy on us and admit us to Paradise. He will ofcourse ask what is "His Way" and than you should tell him that Islam is a universal way of life which Prophet Muhammad PBUH taught us and will lead us to Paradise. I am sure that you know how to carry on this conversation.

Please keep us updated with how your interactions goes.

JazakumAllah.

[Qatada]

asalaam alaikum


this might be useful for him insha Allah :)

http://www.islamic-life.com/forums/r...-god-god-1225/

[salman]

as-salamu 'alaykum

akhee, the most important thing that you need to realize that guidance is in the Allah's Hands. Our job is convey the message and answer their queries. If they accept Islam, thuma allhamdulillah, otherwise, our job is done. What you can do is that if he is sincere and you think he'll come to Islam, then make dua'a for him.

[amar_labedi]

Originally Posted by Najm

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Well i have recently spoken to a Hindy friend. He is very open minded. He strictly follows the Hindu Scriptures etc. From my recent conversation with him i was very surprised how similar the beliefs of both Islam and Hinduism.

I main spoke about about Islam throughout the talk, after him asking me questions he had about Islam. They were mainly misconceptions which Alhamdulillah i managed to solve! Anyways how can i conviunce him to become a Muslim?

Here a list of things he agrees with.....

God is One etc pretty much the same as Islam
Dont believe in Angels but a "super-being"
Believes in Messengers which are called Avtars
Believes the Veda is of divine origin
Does not believe in reincarnation but life after death
Believes in Heaven and Hell
Believes in Destiny

Believes in also other smaller aspects such prohibition from alcohol, theft, fraud, bribery gambling, unlawful killing, indulging in women, hunting, fortune-telling as well as the "internal" hijab.

I have spoken to him about the Quran in detail including, the challenge, the science, the miracles, how it was revealed, some things about the life of , and the fact that there is no contraditions. as well as they various rights such as women, parents, non-muslims, neighbours etc

Also he really understood the term Jihad, and the rules of war in Islam.

So after all this what should i do?

Also how can i convince him that our Prophet (SalAllahu Alayhi WaSalam) is the Last and Final Messenger?

FiAmaaniAllah

Assalamalaikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraktuhu
Mashallah a nice effort by you brother

I really fail to understand when a Hindu can accept 33 crore Gods How he is unable to understand and accept the Truth of One and Only God. i.e. ALLAH

May Allah accept your striving for service to Islam.

O Allah! Guide us to your straight path! The path of those who have your blessing, not those who qualify themselves for your punishment and nor those who are astray!
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[anonymous365]

@amar_labedi : I really fail to understand when a Hindu can accept 33 crore Gods How he is unable to understand and accept the Truth of One and Only God. i.e. ALLAH

To understand anything , you should have a brain.
Now try to understand what I am explaining :
1)33 crore gods in hindu? It happens when you don't know the meaning of god. For hindu's god is only one. Fools like you who shout 33 crore - 33 crore on top of there head, should first know what god is? Hindu's 33 crore devtaas. They are not at all related to god. They are just different species, like humans are different from dog or cat. They have some special powers because of different reasons but they are not god. In islam you talks about jannat. It is same. In hindus it becomes swarg and the person who stays there becomes devta. One thing is different after going to swarg(jannat in islam) you get some extra powers but it do not mean they becomes god. And about one god. almost all the hindus believe in one god. For them ram, krishna, jesus and mohammad is same. It's true there are many hindu's who hate muslim's (I too) but it's not right that they hate Mohammad. Just come to india. You will see thosands of hindu's in dargah's churches. Hindu willl go tp temple, to church , to dargah. Just go and see the crowd in ajmer shariff(more hindus then muslims). Have you ever heard about a muslim or a christian going to temple??
About one allah : when you says there is only one allah and there is not anything except then allah, then why you can't believe that humans are allah. In hindu also there is one god and nothing except then that. But there are humans in this world, stones, trees, animals in this world. So hindus generalised the pricipal that we are also god. Everything in this world is god because there can't be anything except then god.

Don't ever think to convert a hindu. If your allah wanted that person should be a muslim, he would have born in muslim family but allah wants him to be a hindu, so let him be a hindu.

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[Hassan_Abd_Allah]

And about one god. almost all the hindus believe in one god. For them ram, krishna, jesus and mohammad is same.

So what is that one god you speak of? ram, krishna, jesus, muhammad or what? And you say all of these are the same to a hindu, in what way may I ask?

It's true there are many hindu's who hate muslim's (I too) but it's not right that they hate Mohammad.

Newsflash: Muhammad sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam was a Muslim.

Just come to india. You will see thosands of hindu's in dargah's churches. Hindu willl go tp temple, to church , to dargah. Just go and see the crowd in ajmer shariff(more hindus then muslims). Have you ever heard about a muslim or a christian going to temple??

The reason why Muslims dont go to temples is obvious. We dont believe in perennialism i.e. all religions are true. Rather we are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Islaam is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The logical consequence of this is every other religion are false. So it is insensible to expect a follower of truth to come lliase with falsehood.

About one allah : when you says there is only one allah and there is not anything except then allah, then why you can't believe that humans are allah. In hindu also there is one god and nothing except then that.

The concept of existence in Islaam is dualistic and not singular as you make it sound. in Islaam God is an Entity and the Creation is an entirely different entity. We do not say "there is nothing except Allah", we rather say there is no god, i.e. deity worthy of being worshiped rather than, Allah. In other words, the Divine nature of the existence is monopolistically Allah's. The Human beings or any other creation do not have any share whatsoerrver in that concept of Divine existence. Thats just the way things are.

But there are humans in this world, stones, trees, animals in this world. So hindus generalised the pricipal that we are also god. Everything in this world is god because there can't be anything except then god.

That makes it sound like everything exists necessarily and not because of the virtue of a Higher power i.e. Allah. Pantheism isnt really sensible, generalizing between God and the Creation can only give u a logical fallacy (or a bunch of them). God is an entity entirely different from Creation in Traits and attributes. There is no generalization between them whatsoever. This is sensible while the concept of pantheism you brought up is not.

Also, You wrote above that the Devtas arent gods, but in your second para you are saying you generalize and claim everything is God. care to resolve this contradiction?

Don't ever think to convert a hindu. If your allah wanted that person should be a muslim, he would have born in muslim family but allah wants him to be a hindu, so let him be a hindu.

Allah isnt a two-faced liar as you make him sound. If He said that Islaam is the true religion then it is absolutely insensible for Allah to be happy with the fact that someone is a hindu. The accident of birth has nothing to do whatsoever with the choice of a person. Just because I was born somewhere doesnt mean the cultural background of my parents are correct. If I knew better and yet didnt accept the truth, then of course the burden of sin falls on me. Thats basic logic.

As a final note, check out the rules section of the forum. There are other rules included there save the stereotypical rules you find everywhere. This is not really a debate spots between muslims and non-muslims, rather a database for the benefit of the Muslims to gather polemical info on Islaam and other religions.

[anonymous365]

The reason why Muslims dont go to temples is obvious. We dont believe in perennialism i.e. all religions are true. Rather we are convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that Islaam is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The logical consequence of this is every other religion are false. So it is insensible to expect a follower of truth to come lliase with falsehood.

hahahaha. I can only laugh on this. Somebody comes and tells a group of uneducated people that i am the paigambar of god. plus blahblahblah + i am the only paigambar of god + blahblahblah and it started a religion. You are saying people should believe it as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Who guarantees he told the truth.your allah. You are talking about logical consequence. the logical consequence is entire islam and its philosophy is meaningless. have any muslim tried to evalute what muhammad told? What islam says "don't think, just follow." These type of people can't be considered as human. They are like sheep, one jumps in a well, every sheep jump to that well.

[Hassan_Abd_Allah]

hahahaha. I can only laugh on this. Somebody comes and tells a group of uneducated people that i am the paigambar of god. plus blahblahblah + i am the only paigambar of god + blahblahblah and it started a religion. You are saying people should believe it as the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Who guarantees he told the truth.your allah. You are talking about logical consequence. the logical consequence is entire islam and its philosophy is meaningless. have any muslim tried to evalute what muhammad told? What islam says "don't think, just follow." These type of people can't be considered as human. They are like sheep, one jumps in a well, every sheep jump to that well.

First, if you're looking for an intellectual discussion, you have to cut down on your personal insults and immature comments. Thats basic debate etiquette.

Second, you are basically attacking a strawman here. The discussion was on whether the Muslim justificatyion for their not going into the temple is valid or not. I argued that according to the Muslim belief, Islaam is the only true religion, therefore it doesnt make sense for a Muslim to go to a place where falsehood is practised. You countered this by saying that the Muslim belief has no proof, which is a strawman argument. We are talking about whether the POV from which the Muslim is coming from is valid or not and not whether their faith is true or not.

Thirdly, You are making very bold, in fact reckless, claims here. You are assuming brazenly that Islaam doesnt have any evidence or intellectual basis whatsoever, which is the farthest thing from the Truth. To begin with, Islaam clearly says that the belief in Islaam is based on evidences and not merely blind faith as you make it sound. For instance, The Prophet Muhammad sallallahu 'alaihi wasallam said: "Every Prophet was given miracles (so that people would be intellectually convinced by these to believe in the truth of the message). The Miracle that I am given is the Qur'an, so I hope on the Day of Judgment I am going to have the largest group of followers." This clearly states that Islaam is based on reasoning, i.e. you consider the miraculous nature of the Qur'an to be convinced, rationally, of its truth. No blind faith here. Also, refer to the Qur'an Surah Bayyinah's first few verses, where Allah explicitly says that the Non-Muslims wouldnt have believed unless there came to them Clear Evidence (Bayyinah). So we see that Islaam is claiming that it gives proof and reason for it to be accepted.

So what are these proofs you ask? There are quite a few, and to discuss all of these would require another thread in and of itself. However, to summarize the issue and boil it down to just some key-points:

1. Argument from narration: the Qur'an contains quite a few biblical narratives, from both the testaments. We have no naturalistic explanation whatsoever about how they ended up there. The Christian religion had no basis whatsoever in the Arabian Peninsula, on top of that almost none of the pre-Jahiliyyah poets were Christians which shows Christianity wasnt prevalent in the culture, on top of that no translation of Judaeo-Christian scriptures were made into Arabic until the 9th century, much later after the advent of Islaam, on top of that the Prophet (saws) was an illiterate man who wasnt verse in the previous scriptures at all. So we are left with no naturalistic explanations whatsoever about this phenomenon. The only way to explain this would be that the Prophet Muhammad (saws) indeed had Divine revelation, which is the only plausible source of this information.

2. Argument from Prophecies: there are many prophecies which are made in the Qur'an and the Sunnah which were later fulfilled with stunning precision. Again, the only naturalistic explanation for fulfilled prophecies is to attribute these to a Divine source of Wisdom. To give just one(among dozens) prophecy as an example: sometime in the 7th century, the Roman empire suffered a stunning defeat by the Persians. This potentially crushed the backbone of the Romans and it was thought they could never stand up again. At this time Allah revealed in the Qur'an in Surah Rum (verse 1 onwards) : "The Romans have been defeated in a land close by, but they even after this defeat of theirs will soon be victorius..." Saheeh hadeeth of the Prophet(saws) explained "soon" to mean within 9 years. Indeed on the 7th year to the surprise of everyone in view, the Romans made a stunning comeback and defeated the persians. Its like saying before the match between Hull City and Chelsea that Hull city is gonna win by one goal which will be scored before the 40-minutes timeline! No naturalistic explanation can be offered for this, except Divine Wisdom.

3. Argument from Scientific Accuracy: there are quite a few verses of the Qur'an which speak explicitly of scientific facts which are only being discovered recently. It is impossible to assume that an Arab from the 7th century gained this knowledge through natural means. The only way to explain such phenomena is, again, Divine Wisdom. Now there are quite a few such scientific miracles, but for now I leave you only with two:

taken from My beliefs - My paradigm

The descriptions of the root of mountains and their function.

The Qur'an says:
Have We not made the earth as a wide expanse, And the mountains as pegs? (78:6-7)
The part saying "mountains as pegs" is not vague. It gives a clear view of their shape, and this has been confirmed by science, and there was no way to discover these things without our current scientific advancement. If we look at an early tefsir made prior to scientific discoveries it's also clear that this is not a make-fit-translation:
Tafsir ibn kathir
And here's a scientific article that confirms the shape of mountains:
Beneath the mountains

In an earlier verse we see:
And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them, and We placed therein broad highways for them to pass through, that they may be guided. (21:31)
Here the Qur'an goes further, not only telling us the shape of mountains, but also their function. Again the early tefisr:
Tefsir Ibn Kathir
Article explaining how research confirms the function of mountains as insulators for earthquakes:
Effects of Large-Scale Surface Topography on Ground Motions

The description of the different layers of the sea, and their effect on light.

The Qur'an says:
Or as darkness on a vast, abysmal sea. There covereth him a wave, above which is a wave, above which is a cloud. Layer upon layer of darkness. When he holdeth out his hand he scarce can see it. And he for whom Allah hath not appointed light, for him there is no light. (24:40)
This verse claims that:
1. Deep inside the sea there is darkness, this has now been tested with diving equipment and validated.
2. There are different waves above each other. This has now been tested with hightech equipment, measuring density and temperature, you can find "layers" of sea.
3. The darkness is caused by the layers. Again this is correct. These different layers of sea, since they each have a different density and temperature cause a phenomena which in science we call: "light refraction". Upon each refraction, a percentage of light is reflected back up. So the light is really stoped in part layer by layer.

(In all fairness, do note this only accounts for part of the darkness, allot of the light is also reflected on the surface (+-30%) and also some part of it is absorbed as heat by collisions. However, I find it amazing that this verse does not contradict science nevertheless)

Conclusion

If you read these verses at face value, they have an obvious direct meaning. They are clearly not meant in a metaphorical way, and give a direct message. Of course people can interpret that differently, but that's not my point. My point is:
1. The direct literal meaning of these verses is confirmed by science
2. The early scholars, who lived before we had these scientific knowledge, believed that these meant the same as we now believe.
3. This knowledge could not have been discovered without our current technological equipment.
4. The only logical explanations are that it is truly a divine revelation or that it was a lucky guess. However to claim that all of these different miracles were all lucky guesses defy the logic of chance-calculation and luck, and is therefore no longer a logical explanation.

Argument from Linguistic: this is perhaps the most easily noticeable and perceptible Miracle of the Qur'an. the Qur'an itself makes mention of this explicitly:

"And if you are in doubt as to that which We have revealed to Our servant, then produce a chapter like it and call on your witnesses besides Allah if you are truthful. "
(Qur'an 2:23)

Basically this argument is laid down as follows: The literature of the Qur'an is Unique, Inimitable, and also retains a very high standard. No effort to reproduce anything similar to it has been even remotely successful. The only way something could have achieved such a degree of eloquence is if it were revealed from God originally.

This is not easy to grasp for someone not knowledgable in Arabic. So I dont expect to take it on face value. If however the need arises I will supply links and audios to explain these (inshAllah).

5. Argument from consistency: This is the single strongest argument for the Truth of Islaam. It has many sub-sections and each one of them border on Miraculous/ Thing is Islaam is so internally and externally consistent on so many different levels that it isnt sensible at all to reject its truth. To summarize the things it comes under this header:

a) Theological Consistency: Islamic concept of God, Hereafter, Messengership and Scriptures etc are most simplistic and sensible and internally and externally consistent.

b) Factual consistency: There are no contradictions, external or internal, whatsoever in the entire corpus of the Islaamic text, showing its cent-percent consistent.

c) Historical consistency: The scriptures of Islaam were so amazingly preserved that they underwent no historical corruption whatsoever, in stark contrast to any other book which undergoes change. Especially those which were written before the invention of the printing press.

d) Legislative consistency. All of the Legislative rulings of Islaam add up to produce an amazing picture which leads a person closer to following God and gives the society a very healthy outlook and structure.

Any of the arguments Ive written above, if a person considers even one of them, that is enough intellectual basis for one to convert into a Muslim. Put all of these together and you basically end up with the miracle of miracles

So to conclude: Islaam DOES claim that it produces evidence, and not just "dont think just follow" pattern which you mentioned. And Islaam provides evidence of amazing potential so much so that they are enough to convince any person of the truth of Islaam.