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| ![]() He is Al-Khuza’y, The Imam, The Martyr, Abu Abdulla, Ahmad ibn Nasr ibn Malik ibn Al-Haytham Al-Khuza’y Al-Marwazy and then the Baghdadi (d 231 H) (i). Imam Al-Dhahabi (d 748 H) described him as: “He was a commander of Good, Speaker of Truth” (ii). And even though he had all the books of Hashim, and narrations from Imam Malik he did not narrate much, and used to say out of his humbleness: “I have not reached that level yet” (iii). The story of his Death was narrated in many books. Here is what was narrated by Imam Ibn Katheer (d 774 H) [May Allah shower him with Mercy] in “Al-Bidaya wa Al-Nihaya”: The translation was taken (with some alterations) from At-Tibyan Publications’ - ‘Al-Imam Ahmad Ibn Nasr Al-Khuza’i A Leader of Scholars, A Leader of Martyrs (available online). In the events of the Year 231 H:- End of the translation taken from At-Tibyan publications. (to be continued later) [i] Siyar A’laam Al-Nubala – Imam Al-Dhahabi [ii] Siyar A’laam Al-Nubala – Imam Al-Dhahabi [iii] Siyar A’laam Al-Nubala – Imam Al-Dhahabi |
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| Ibn Abi Ya’la says in Tabaqat Al-Hanabilah: And he was an old man, with white hair and a white beard. The body of Imam Ahmad ibn Nasr was left hanging for 6 years until Al-Mutawakil became the Caliph. Imam Ibn Kathir narrates: And on the day of Eid Al-Fitr, Al-Mutawakil ordered the body of Ahmad ibn Nasr Al-Khuza’iy to be taken down, and sent with his head to his family. The people were very pleased with this, and a lot of people gathered for his Janazah. Then Al-Mutawakil wrote to all the land forbidding people from speaking about the matter of the Speech, and forbidding anyone from saying that the Quran is created. He also wrote that whoever learns ‘Ilm Al-Kalam and spoke in it then he would be imprisoned until he dies. He ordered the people to busy themselves with the Quran and the Sunnah and nothing else (1). He also released all the people who were imprisoned because of their refusal to say that the Quran is created (2). It is narrated that ‘Abdulaziz ib Yahya Al-Makiy told Al-Mutawakil, after he became a Caliph, O Amir Al-Mu’mineen I did not see anything stranger than the killing of Al-Wathiq to Ahmad ibn Nasr whose tongue kept reciting the Quran until he was buried. Al-Mutawakil was saddened by what he heard of his brother, when the Minister Muhammad ibn ‘Abdulmalik ibn Al-Zayat entered. So Al-Mutawakil told him: “In my heart is something, from the killing of Ahmad ibn Nasr”. So [ibn Al-Zayat] said: O Amir Al-Mu’mineen, May Allah cause me to be burned by fire, if Amir Al-Mu’mineen Al-Wathiq did not kill him as a Kafir. Then Hirthimah entered, and Al-Mutawakil told him as he told ibn Al-Zayat. So Hirthimah said: May Allah cause me to be cut into pieces if he was not killed as a Kaffir. Then the Judge Ibn Abi Duad entered, and Al-Mutawakil told him the same thing. So he said: May Allah cause me to get Al-Falij (Hemiplegia), if Al-Wathiq did not kill him as a Kafir. Al-Mutawakil later narrates: As for ibn Al-Zayaat, I burned him myself, and as for Hirthimah he escaped until he reached a place where the tribe of Khuza’ah resided. He was recognized by one of them who said: O people of Khuza’ah, that is the one that killed your cousin Ahmad ibn Nasr, so they took him and cut him into pieces. As for ibn Abu Duad, Allah imprisoned him in his own skin (since he was paralyzing by Al-Falij) until he died (3). Some of his sayings: 1) Ahmad ibn Ibrahim said: I heard Ahmad ibn Nasr the Martyr saying: I passed one day on a man in a state of Sara’ (epilepsy), So I came to recite Quran at his ears, but then I heard a voice saying: [Do not recite] and let me kill him, since that man claims the Quran is created (4). 2) Ibrahim Al-Harbi said in what was authentically attributed to him: Ahmad ibn Nasr said, when asked about the Knowledge of Allah: Allah is with us by His Knowledge, and he is over his ‘Arsh (Throne). Then he was asked about the Quran, so he replied: It is the Word of Allah. He was told: Created? He replied: No (5). Ibn Al-Qayim [May Allah shower him with Mercy] says in his Nuniyah (6): ولأجله قتل ابن نصر أحمدا **ذاك الخزاعي العظيم الشانMay Allah shower him with Mercy _____________________________ [1] Al-Bidayah wa Al-Nihayah – ibn Katheer [2] Tareekh Al-Islam – Al-Dhahabi [3] Al-Bidayah wa Al-Nihayah – ibn Katheer [4] I’tiqad Ahl Al-Sunnah – Al-Lalakaey [5] Al-‘Uloou – Al-Dhahabi [6] Nuniyat Ibn Al-Qayim Ahmad ibn Nasr (The Imam & The Martyr) - Multaqa Ahl al-Hadeeth |
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| ![]() akhee, Jazak Allah khayran for sharing, but it is not readable. EDIT never mind - see the text is so much better, :P
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| asalaam alaikum emaan boosting huh? :D |
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| very beneficial reading subhanAllah, jazakAllah khair for sharing. Quote:
Just in case anyone want to read the story in Arabic from the book "Al Kamel fi Al Tareekh" here
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| ![]() Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, subhaanAllah, wa Allhamdulillah! Our Imam, the martyr, Ahmad ibn Nasir, may Allah shower His Mercy upon him, met His Lord while defending His deen - what a beautiful death! May Allah also make us die while we are defending haqq, ameen. Let the modern day jahmiyyah learn some lesson from this story.
__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind: Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] |
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| Jazakallahu khairan qatada that was a good one. I needed that one. I haven't read something like this in a while. One prime thing I need to highlight when I read about the mutazilah in the first post, I literally saw ash'aris I literally can pitcure ala current day ash'ari arguing like this asalamu alaikum |
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| ![]() ^all of those things you mentioned have been mentioned in the sunnah in one way or another so i dont see where the "excessive" questioning comes in or the "fabrication" in our religion.
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| Assalamu Aleykum ww Jazakallahu khayran brother for sharing this. And May Allah make us all, of those who are firm upon His deen. Ameen And Akhee the ranks of the prophets sahabas r.a. are clear. Last edited by Ibn Ilyas; 12-18-2009 at 07:43 AM. |
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| optimist, really, why do you have to ruin every thread with your utter rubbish and nonsense? Just in case if you didn't notice, this is getting annoying now. Please spare us from your deviant ideology! How dare you actually mock and look down upon the sunnah of Allah's Messenger (sal-allahu alayhi wa sallam)!? And then you call yourself a Muslim!? @others just add optimist in your ignore list and don't pay attention to what he says. I thought he would learn something but he is no different from silver.
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