Why we Muslims not Brave to..?

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Old 10-18-2009, 10:39 AM   #1
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Venezuela, Russia and Iran had proposed the U.S. dollar should be replaced as the currency used for the oil trade, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on Saturday.

“We’ve been talking about this in OPEC. Venezuela agrees and there are other countries, such as Iran and Russia that have also proposed this idea,” Chavez told reporters in the central Bolivian region of Cochabamba, where he was attending a summit of Latin American presidents.


A debate about the issue of replacing the dollar with a basket of currencies in an attempt to stabilize revenues has been widely discussed since a report in the Independent newspaper this month said the Persian Gulf states were considering the change.


source: Iran, Russia, Venezuela Back Dropping U.S. Dollar for Oil Trade


Leftist Latin American leaders have agreed on using a new intra- regional trading currency, dubbed as Sucre, instead of the US dollar.

Bolivian President Evo Morales, who hosted leaders of the Bolivarian Alternative for Latin America and the Caribbean (ALBA), said that the “document is approved.”


During the seventh ALBA summit, the leaders agreed on the currency reform as well as approving plans to impose economic sanctions against the coup leaders in Honduras, AFP reported.


The currency, Sucre, is named after Jose Antonio de Sucre who fought for Spain’s independence alongside Venezuelan hero Simon Bolivar in the early 19th century.


Sucre is scheduled to be rolled out in 2010 in a non-paper form.
The nine members of ALBA, conceived by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, are Cuba, Dominica, Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Honduras, Saint Vincent and Antigua, Bolivia and Barbuda.


The bloc also agreed to replace the International Center for Settlement of Investment Disputes, which is in charge of arbitrating international disputes and has probed a large number of contract disputes between Western energy firms and members of ALBA.


ALBA, which has already lost many of its members, including Ecuador, is echoing the moves of the European Union and its introduction of euro.

source: Latin America plans US dollar replacement


or some other Latin American Examples for Muslim World to be brave, to tell the truth, to do the right, to support right;
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Obama Did Nothing to Deserve Nobel

Chavez, Gadhafi seek alliance to counter West

Chavez: Zionist Regime's Foreign Minister Lieberman is mafia boss, killer

Chavez: US waging terror campaign


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I don't say that we must replace the Us dollar, etc.. to become rivals for South America. I just ask why oppressed nations like Latin Americans or Africans object to imperialism but we do not? Does Islam approve the west (I mean US and Western countries administrations) plunder the sources of the world? Are Muslims not oppressed like Latin Americans?... I'm sorry if I offend you.. But, this condition makes me crazy..
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Old 10-18-2009, 01:33 PM   #2
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1. this has nothing to do with bravery more than it has to deal with returning back to Allah. victory is with Allah, NOT within the actions we perform, rather we do what we do and then Allah perfects what we do in the way He pleases

2. the kuffar are not at war with the kuffar (americans not at war with latin americans or russia or Iran), rather they are at war with the Muslims. So our situation is more detrimental than these kuffar for I don;t think they would be doing what they are speaking about had they been in our shoes

3. even these kuffar like latin american ,russia, and iran are much more developed than we are. At least if they pick a fight, they have gloves, we don't even have a fighter, much less the gloves on his hands.

4. lastly, muslim success lies on a different platform than kaafir success

this is how the sunnah of Allah has been mapped out based upon our experience

kaafir success= lies in our failure to comply with the sunnah and the submission to Allah

Muslim success=lies in our success in the compliance with the sunnah and the full submission of to Allah making justice as the ultimate goal in our affairs on this earth

kaafir defeat and humilation= lies in our success in the compliance with the sunnah and the full submission of to Allah making justice as the ultimate goal in our affairs on this earth

Muslim defeat and humiliation=lies in our failure to comply with the sunnah and the submission to Allah

that is the map of the true muslim in his mind in relation to Allah's sending of victory to His chosen servants, or to His enemies in order to test and check His chosen servants.

If our call to the Muslims is anything outside of this methodology, we can hang it up and continue expecting failure, defeat, and humiliation.
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lastly, this should be in like the news section or something.
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lastly, this should be in like the news section or something.
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switching from the dollar monopoly in oil transactions to a basket of currencies would surely and significantly weaken the USA's capacity for oppression. If any nation on the planet can make the transition then that is good news.

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thanks for your nice comment. InshaAllah we will hear good news.
and dear moderators may well move the topic to the right board if there is any without asking, right?
I may not know all the boards on the forum as I'm a newbie here.
and mr. boriqee. First, we have to know the definition of Kufr, then Kafir or Kuffar in order not to be one -God forbid- by naming Muslims Kuffar.
Secondly, you may heard the world wars. I wonder if the world wars occured not among the people of the book or as you call kuffar?
I know that believers may be at war with each other (ie. Imam Ali's army and that of Talha and Zubair's) so disbelievers (ie. Persia and Romans in the time of the Prophet) and I also know with the sayings of the Prophet (pbuh) that the next (maybe world) war will be between Opressors and Oppressed ones, NOT among the beliefs.
I JUST ASKED WHY WE ARE NOT BRAVE. You said we must turn to Allah. You are right. Yet, you say turning is not WITHIN ACTIONS!! Man, How is it possible? Thanks
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