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Old 12-27-2009, 01:05 AM   #1
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We believe it is not the time right now to argue about different opinions and different schools of thought. It is not the time now to be in the same web which the Ummah (Muslim Population) and mankind are falling into.
It’s not the time to try to achieve any goals according to sharia'h (Islamic Law), unless we develop our faith and the reality of our deen (way of life) first.
We want to be able to go to Allah and say:
"O’Allah we are trying to spread your Mercy! O’Allah we are trying to avoid being the cause of fitna'h (tribulations)."


Well, we embraced this message because this message doesn’t belong to any group, ideology, hezb, jama'a, Sheikh or anyone.
This message is basically toward the reality of going back to Allah.
As a first step may Allah allow us to continue until we reach the end by His will, tawfeeq (ability/permission), light, wisdom and power. Allah promises the victory to the believers.
"We believe we have to spread the peaceful message, the real message: the one that can offset the distortion, the violence, and the misunderstandings of today."
We believe people have to see, feel, and know the true message of Islam away from political agendas of violence, terrorism and misconception.
First we believe people have to hear the message the way it is and then, if Allah the Almighty, the Creator, showers you with the truth, the light, the wisdom, and the vision, He will allow you to do whatever pleases Him.


We are not an organization, we are not affiliated to anyone, and we are not calling for anything except for the belief and the Mercy of the Creator.
We are trying to save mankind (both Muslims and non Muslim) from the torture of the Creator and to bring them to His mercy and pleasure.
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one deen....one islam....one ummah.....
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Old 12-27-2009, 08:11 AM   #3
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Great

So what are the methods you have in mind to go about gaining Allahs pleasure and to steer away from His wrath
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:43 AM   #4
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One thing I liked what Ahmed Moait has said as one Sheikh advised him;

"If you want to be a Da'ee today, don't mention names. The moment you mentions names, one group will like you and one group will hate you. It will become a battle against the name and people will forget the message."
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It’s not the time to try to achieve any goals according to sharia'h (Islamic Law), unless we develop our faith and the reality of our deen (way of life) first.
really? When Shari'ah is Islam and Islam is Shari'ah then how are we going to develop our faith and reality of deen by abandoning the Shari'ah? Even in specific definition of the Shari'ah, how one is going to develop our faith by abandoning it?

SN (side note): why do I smell elements of murjism here? or maybe it is just me?
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SN (side note): why do I smell elements of murjism here? or maybe it is just me?
I know, that was why I asked the question.

Anyways

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can anyone propose their method of how they plan to fulfill allahs mercy and avoid his wrath

so far optimist conclusion is to not mention names.

Anyone else

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“Tell them that God’s power has overall power to bring upon you calamities from above or from under your feet, or to cover you with confusion with party strife, giving you a taste of mutual vengeance each from the other. See how we bring the truths and facts before you repeatedly, so that you may think and contemplate”. - (6: 65)
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^and what does this have to do with our questions and topic of this thread?
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^and what does this have to do with our questions and topic of this thread?
Salam,

I will tell you. I found a message in the intial post as below.

"We are not an organization, we are not affiliated to anyone, and we are not calling for anything except for the belief and the Mercy of the Creator."

I had a quick glance at the website and I also found the following message which attracted me.

"If you want to be a Da'ee today, don't mention names. The moment you mentions names, one group will like you and one group will hate you. It will become a battle against the name and people will forget the message."

These messages highlight the importance of Muslims living as a single Ummah without associating with any sects in Islam and without any division. My post is relevant because Allah has warned us in this verse that if we do not stand united Allah will send "calamities from above or from under your feet, or to cover you with confusion with party strife, giving you a taste of mutual vengeance each from the other". I posted this just to highlight the importance of unity among muslims and the need to eradicate sects in Islam. Allah is repeatedly testing the believers to realise the dangerous situation they are in. "See how we bring the truths and facts before you repeatedly, so that you may think and contemplate”. - (6: 65)

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^tayyib (ok). 1 - we already understood that point but this doesn't answer our question: how do we achieve what you are purposing? Are we going to achieve it by abandoning shari'ah as it was stated in first post? 2 - You don't believe that calamities are from Allah. Did you change your view?
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