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Old 11-26-2009, 12:06 PM   #1
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A young boy wrote in a religion forum,that he is muslim by name !??BUT he is aware of Christianity too..
He was asking some things about Islam..then he said he believe in the goodness of the ppl,regardless religion...
Then he send me PM asking how I leave Christianity and become a muslim.

I don't know what to do..
To tell him straight which path is the truth,to tell him only my story and not to do dawa,or that the believe of ,,goodness of ppl'' will not let him in Paradise...
pls help with advice!
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Old 11-26-2009, 05:56 PM   #2
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Confused :/.
I would be straightforward.

Something along the lines of

" You are not the first to inquire about the truth. Humans are rational beings For Muslims, this is Islam[list some basic foundations of Islam]. This is reality. In Islam, good and evil is recognized in all humans, but the underlying truth is belief in Allah, which saves from Punishment of Hellfire and brings us closer to our Lord, in attaining/seeking His Pleasure, is ultimately the greatest triumph. The decision is up to you. "

If he does confirm his readiness to change [InshaAllah], then show him the method to take the Shahadah.
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Ask him whether he believes god can come out of a womans private parts, if he says no then explain the trinity to him.
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Old 11-26-2009, 10:20 PM   #4
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Polemical response such as this ruwaydah will not work for these types of individuals

people such as these operate on the level where they fall in line with one common liberal idea which is exemplified with "there is no universal truth" and "truth is relevant" and slogans as these which is why approaching them from the angle of polemics will not work well to this front of people.

Just my two cents

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Polemical response such as this ruwaydah will not work for these types of individuals

people such as these operate on the level where they fall in line with one common liberal idea which is exemplified with "there is no universal truth" and "truth is relevant" and slogans as these which is why approaching them from the angle of polemics will not work well to this front of people.

Just my two cents

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Maybe, If you show Muslims (with weak faith) how absurd christianity is then they are most likely to realize it is not a faith worth following.

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He sent me PM again,asking the same !!!

I don't know what to do..
He said also:,,Happy fest!,,-no Eid,not even ,,bayram,, :(
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I do not think I completely understand the situation and the question.

So a Muslim boy has become Christian or influenced by Christianity and asking you why he should come back to Islam? And you would like to know how to answer him? Sister haqekka, did I get it right?
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I do not think I completely understand the situation and the question.

So a Muslim boy has become Christian or influenced by Christianity and asking you why he should come back to Islam? And you would like to know how to answer him? Sister haqekka, did I get it right?


He is influenced by Christianity;not asking how to be muslim,he said he believes in one god.
Ot that forum there is a christian,who is obsessed to show muslims that they are ,,actually christians,, and this boy doesn't take a side (I confront the christian,who is very aggresive bdw)
Now he wants to know why I left Christianity,I see opportunity to make dawa,but not sure how..
He come to forum discussing religions,may be he will see the truth,if Allah SUT wish to guide him..
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Selam aleykum
In my opinion, the best approach to this would be to explain it as such:
It is true that there is some good in all people, and some good in most religions. Especially the monotheistic religions, which were derived from the genuine message of Islamic prophets. However, this doesn't mean that there aren't bad things in it to. To give an example, if a philosopher tries to speculate about the characteristics of God, he might answer questions some people have. And people might get faith/strength from that. On the other hand people might also see flaws in these explanations, and become disbelievers because of this approach. This is one of the biggest problems with christianity. The catholic church invented and speculated a whole bunch of concepts in their early days, in order to answer questions that they couldn't answer back then. Later Christianity took some of those from Catholisism. But since people are imperfect, some of their innovations, however well-intended they might have been have caused contradictions and raised even more questions. And nowadays churches are loosing members in mass-numbers due to this. Any innovation, even those who appear to be positive in short term, will become negative in long term. So if you look at the bigger picture, generation after generation, it's very important to stay away from any deviations in religion. This also shows us that there can be only one true path, one true religion. While in short-term, other religions might cause people to do good, in long term these other religions will cause many problems. Think for example about the many people in the west who assume that Islam contradicts science. They think this because they think that islam is similar to Christianity. So since Christianity contradicts science, they assume Islam probably does to.

Yes there might be some good in Christianity, and yes some Christians show very good behaviour, and yes we should be tolerant towards other people and try to co-exist. But when it comes to debates and discussions, we should understand that our differences are important and meaningful to.
That seems to me the core of the issue here. But I don't know if this explenation would help, and Allah subhana wa ta'ala knows best.
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Selam aleykum

Thank you brother Abdul-Fattah, as always, I think you’ve hit the nail right on the head
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