> Two Excellent Example of Hijab

[Raied]

Asalamo Alaikum everyone. Hope all are doing well. My cousin forwarded this email to me, and I loved it. It is such a great example. The first one is very self explanatory, and the second one is a short story.



Second example:

One day the imam with his wife in Hijab and the English Man(Gora) were traveling together in the train. The English man asked the imam: "why do you people cover your wife from head to toe? "
The imam thought for a while........... suddenly he picked up one lemon from his pocket cut it in half with a knife.
Imam asked : Do you know what is this?
The English man : hmmm...yumyum...Yes I know, this is a lemon.
Imam : No....this is my lemon, till it was in my pocket your mouth didn't watered but as soon I took it out and cut it, you wanted to taste it, similarly when women is covered from head to too, no one will think about her but if she removes her hijab then every one will think to make her own .



Good stuff eh?

[Umm Marwa Mustafa]

Women will always be thought of, whether they wear Hijab or not. Had it been just hijab then Allah (swt) would not have commanded women to not speak softly. Therefore wearing a khimar or niqab does not negate a womans Awra. Furthermore, The analogies you have gave [ Lollypop and lemon] bears no weight in reality. The Khimar is not worn as much as it used to in many societies, we see a trend of higab ( May Allah reward these sisters) on the other hand the new trend of higab conveys much ignorance in how to cover properly.

Point being, I believe the goodness of khimar should be illustrated, even exaggerated. But in doing so there are many chaste women, who preserve their modesty but do not wear e.g. Khimar. To say they are like a leftover meal is just false and probably offends a bunch of women out there.

Jazakah Allah khayran for the post.

[salman]

^As-Salamu 'Alaykum

[quote=Ruwayda Mustafah;5961]Women will always be thought of, whether they wear Hijab or not.[quote] yes but not every single woman; also, the analogies in the first post are refrring to drawing attention. If a woman covers herself up then she will draw no/less attention in comparison to a woman who doesn't.

Originally Posted by Ruwayda Mustafah

Had it been just hijab then Allah (swt) would not have commanded women to not speak softly. Therefore wearing a khimar or niqab does not negate a womans Awra.

not speaking softly to non-mahram is part of sharee' hijab; btw women's voice isn't 'awrah.

Originally Posted by Ruwayda Mustafah

Furthermore, The analogies you have gave [ Lollypop and lemon] bears no weight in reality.

not necessarily

Originally Posted by Ruwayda Mustafah

The Khimar is not worn as much as it used to in many societies, we see a trend of higab ( May Allah reward these sisters) on the other hand the new trend of higab conveys much ignorance in how to cover properly.

yes this is true but when we say hijab, we're talking about complete sharee' hijab, not a half hijab or a hijab which would draw attention

Originally Posted by Ruwayda Mustafah

Point being, I believe the goodness of khimar should be illustrated, even exaggerated. But in doing so there are many chaste women, who preserve their modesty but do not wear e.g. Khimar. To say they are like a leftover meal is just false and probably offends a bunch of women out there.

agreed upon but no one is saying what you're trying to imply; nonetheless, such women (who don't wear the complete sharee' hijab) are not following the command of their Lord and that's what matters the most.

Wallahu A'lam (and Allah knows best)

Jazak Allah khayr for sharing this akee Raied

[Umm Marwa Mustafa]

btw women's voice isn't 'awrah.

I take the view that a woman’s voice can be awra. Sometimes women purposely make their voices awra.

not speaking softly to non-mahram is part of sharee' hijab;

Can you please elaborate on this. Also the picture implies what I have said.

[salman]

^It is not matter of taking which view or what women purposely do; the correct view is that women's voice isn't 'awrah. You can refer to Islam Question and Answer - Limits and conditions within which a man may speak to a non-mahram woman

Women's hijab consists of 3 things:

1 - Covering herself up
2 - Lowering her gaze
3 - Not speaking (to non-mahrems) in a manner which would lead to fitnah

This is Sharee' hijab and Allah knows best!

[Umm Marwa Mustafa]

I take the view that a woman’s voice can be awra. When a woman beautifies her voice, it becomes awra. Is my undrestanding here wrong?

[salman]

^if beautifying her voice would lead to fitnah then it is haram as the Sharee'ah forbids it and speaking (to non-mahrams) in such a manner is already part of her 'awrah. sorry if misunderstood you before and Wallah A'lam

[Tema]

3 - Not speaking (to non-mahrems) in a manner which would lead to fitnah

I though we couldn't speak to men at all, well, unnecessarily. But what is unnecessary here? I hope that the following is related.

Q: Is it permissible or obligatory for a woman to go out to learn medicine, if she commits the following despite trying to avoid it?

a-
Mingling with men : 1- while talking with patients and with tutors.
2- in public transportation
b-
Traveling from countries such as Sudan to Egypt, what will the case be if she travels by plane; for a number of hours only not three days?
c-
Is it permissible for her to reside by herself without a Mahram (spouse or unmarriageable relative); to

( Part No : 12, Page No: 179)

learn medicine, if she resides with a group of women, given the existence of the previous conditions?

A: First: If her going out to learn medicine results in mingling with men during studying or in transportation, leading to Fitnah (sedition), then in this case it is impermissible for her to do so, because protecting a woman's honor is an individual obligation while learning medicine is a collective one. An individual obligation is definitely given precedence over a collective obligation. Whereas talking with patients or tutors is not prohibited. What is prohibited, is for a woman to be soft and tender while speaking to them, which may lead to the emergence of evil desire of a mal-hearted person (lewdness or hypocrisy), and this is not restricted to learning medicine.
Second: It is permissible for a woman to travel to learn medicine, or to treat patients if she has a Mahram with her, but not in the case where there is no one with her, even if she travels by plane, due to the saying of the Prophet (peace be upon him): A woman should not travel except with a Dhu-Mahram (Agreed upon by Imams Al-Bukhari and Muslim).Also due to what was previously mentioned that the interest of protecting a woman's honor is to be preceded over the interest of learning or teaching medicine ...etc.
Third: It is permissible for a woman to stay without a Mahram with a trusted group of women to learn and teach medicine or to treat other women, but it is impermissible in case she fears Fitnah if she has no husband or Mahram in her life away from her homeland,

( Part No : 12, Page No: 180)

it is also impermissible for her to treat men except in urgent cases provided there is no khulwah (being alone with a member of the opposite sex).
May Allah grant us success! May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and companions!

Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta'
`Abdullah ibn Qa`ud
`Abdul-Razzaq `Afify
`Abdul-`Aziz ibn `Abdullah ibn Baz

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A long time ago I've read a times for kids magazine in which there was a Saudi who couldn't speak on the phone to a non- mahram sister. I should look up a ruling on that...

[Tema]

Question:

What is the ruling if a young, unmarried man spoke with a young unmarried women on the telephone? Answer:

It is not permissible to speak with an unrelated woman in a manner which may excite desire, such as by speaking words of love, flirting and subduing one's voice , whether on the telephone or otherwise. This is in accordance with the words of Allah, Most High: Then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery, etc.) should be moved with desire& As for speaking when there is a need, there is no objection to it, as long as it is free from corruption, but only in cases of necessity.
Permanent Committee for Research and Verdicts
Fatawa Islamiyah Page no. 120 Vol: 5

[Tema]

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