> Tableegh_a great initiative to dawah

[hafizsaad]

Answer to Some Criticism made in the Fatwa given by a respected Scholar in the post of Brother Abdul Fattah.

1 ? Not adopting the ?aqeedah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jama'ah. This is clearly seen from the variations in the ?aqeedah of some of their members and even of some of their leaders.

For the complete knowledge about the Maslak (Track) / Aqaid Of Ulama e deoband And tablighi Jamahat see link In English In Arabic

2 ? Their not paying attention to shar?i knowledge.

This is also just a misconception . Infact tablighi jamahat basic mission is only the revival of deen and shariat in the world. If you will see the people who are serious in tabligh work , you will find in their families Qurah, Hufaz e Quran and Ulamah.I personlay telling you not for proundness but for awareness , My father start contributing in tabligh from 1970 and now my all brother are Qurah e Quran and one is studying In Darse Nizami for Alim.

3 ? Their misinterpretation of some Qur?anic verses in a manner that was not intended by Allah. For example they interpret the verses on jihad as referring to ?going out for da?wah?. The verses which mentioned the word khurooj (going out) etc. are interpreted by them as meaning going out for da?wah.

The fact is that Qitaal is only the last and final resort in a situation where no other way of reconciliation is found. Thus Qitaal is not the actual object (Maqsoodul Asl) of Jihad.
Tafsir Mazhari explains in the explaination of "كُتِبَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْقِتَالُ وَهُوَ كُرْهٌ لَكُمْ” (2:216), that the virtue of Jihad is above all other rewards because it is a means of spreading Islam and a means of guidance for the mankind. Thus anyone who gets guided from this effort, his reward will be added to the rewards of those strugglers (mujahidîn) who became the means of his guidance.
Ulema have clarified that Prayer, Fast etc are more virtuous than Jihad since they are the actual objectives themselves (Maqasid Li’einehi) and that is above Jihad. This is because the objective of Jihad is to bring more and more people to practice according to Imaan and good morals. This is even strengthened by the saying of Ibn Abideen who said that, there is no doubt that Faraidh of Salaah and Zakaah etc. are more virtuous than Jihad since one is actual obligation (Fardh ul Ain) and the later is sufficient obligation (Fardh ul Kifaaya) and that the Jihad is ordained only to establish Salâah and Imaan. This is why its goodness is not within itself rather because of the goodness of another action that comes because of it (Hasan lighayrihi). And goodness of Salâah is within itself. Thus any effort made for establishing the Hasan Li’einihi becomes Hasan Lighairihi.

Imaam Bukhari (rahimuhullah alayh) in his Saheeh has presented the following hadeeth in Book of Jihad (Kitaab ul Jihad):
مَا اغْبَرَّتْ قَدَمَا عَبْدٍ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَتَمَسَّهُ النَّارُ
No dust afflicts a slave in path of Allah, lest that the fire touches it

Then Imam Bukhari (rahimuhullah alayh) establishes a whole chapter regarding walking for the Salaatul Jumma, and presents a similar hadeeth as follows:
مَنْ اغْبَرَّتْ قَدَمَاهُ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ حَرَّمَهُ اللَّهُ عَلَى النَّارِ
Those feet which get soiled in path of Allah, Allah will make fire Haraam on them.

Please note that the second hadeeth is regarding going in path of Allah and Imam Bukhari (rahimuhullah alayh) has made it precedence (Istadlaal) for going to Jummah Salâah. Thus we may conclude that “fi sabil illah” has more than one connotation. Also, if Imam Sahib (rahimuhullah alayh) can do this much, then why is it so hard to understand that the scholars of Tableegh (Ulema e Muballigheen) have used them as precedence for going out in path of Allah for uplifting the word of Allah. Why can we blame the muballigheen and not Imam Sahib (rahimuhullah alayh)?
Finally, one more aspect that needs to be addressed here is that by proving the meaning of Jihad for Da’wah Ila Allah and fortifying the security and safety of Islam, does not mean that Qitaal is completely waived off. Remember that the Military Jihad is a branch within the branches of Jihad. For complete Detail on this topic see following Link.

How can Jamaat Tableegh use the ahadeeth of Jihad as a parable to them "going out" in path of Allah?

4 ? They make their system of going out for da?wah an act of worship. So they started to misquote the Qur?an to support their system which specifies certain numbers of days and months. This system, which they think is based on evidence from Qur?an, is widespread among them in all countries and environments.

Is it a bidah to Go out with Tablighi jamahat and giving dawah through other new way like Through internet ?
It should be noted that Shariah has not prescribed a special format for the Dawah effort. Whether it is performed by going to homes as Jama’ah Tabligh does, or through writings or publications, or through any other means, the responsibility would be discharged. This explains that it is not Fard Ayn for every Muslim to participate in the work of Tablighi Jamat because
a) Dawah at the general level is not Fard Ayn and
b) the particular style of work adopted by the Tablighi Jama’ah is not mandated by the Shariah.
It must be pointed out that this method is tried and tested. It is effective and became a means of guidance for many people from all around the world and it has been greatly beneficial and it has proven to be an effective means of countering the work of anti-religious forces, therefore cooperating with this Jama’ah and participating in its work to the maximum extent possible is an act of great reward. Doing it with balance and within the limits prescribed by the jurists is a very effective means of protecting ourselves and the Ummah.

5 ? They do some things that go against sharee?ah, such as appointing one of them to make du?a? for them whilst the group goes out for da?wah, and they think that their success or failure depends on whether or not this man was sincere and his du?a? accepted.

It is just a misconception about work. It has no reality. Tablighi jamahat believe on struggle for dawah in the whole world not just dua.May be an ignorant person has thought like this.we should not blame his personal thought to whole jamahat .

6 ? Da?eef (weak) and mawdoo? (fabricated) ahadeeth are widespread among them, and this is not befitting for those who aim to call people to Allah.

Fazail aamal is a book on virtues (fazail) not masail, its accepted that it has zaeef ahadeeth, but those can be considered in case of fazail, not masail.

The actions of Ulama (of the past) will make it clear that it is not a crime to use weak Ahadeeth, provided that rules set forth by the Muhadeetheen are followed.

Finally we present the examples of Imam Bukhari (RA) in “Al Adab Al Mufrad” and Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah’s book “Alkalimut-Tayyib” which both contains many weak Ahadeeth the case in point being that Ameerul-Muhadetheen Imam Bukhari (RA) was the Master of Hadeeth and clearly knew the difference between Authentic (Saheeh) and Weak (Da’ef) Ahadeeth YET he chose to use the later in a book of Fadhail (virtues); Al Adab Al Mufrad is read, taught and practised by the Ummah for generations with the full knowledge that it contains Weak (Da’ef) Ahadeeth, although attempts have been made to “purge” the book from its Weak (Da’ef) Ahadeeth but the original manuscript is still widely available and used. Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah’s book “Alkalimut-Tayyib” has been revised by Shaykh Al-Albani (RA) as “Saheeh (Authentic) Alkalimut-Tayyib” & “Da’ef (Weak) Alkalimut-Tayyib”, nevertheless the original manuscript remains in vogue.For Complete Detail see following link :
What Great Ulama (of the past) and Muhadeetheen Says about the Usage of Weak Hadeeth

7 ? They do not speak of munkarat (evil things), thinking that enjoining what is good is sufficient. Hence we find that they do not speak about evils that are widespread among the people, even though the slogan of this ummah ? which they continually repeat ? is:

?Let there arise out of you a group of people inviting to all that is good (Islam), enjoining Al-Ma?roof (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam orders one to do) and forbidding Al-Munkar (polytheism and disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden). And it is they who are the successful?

[Aal ?Imran 3:104 ? interpretation of the meaning]

The successful are those who enjoin what is good and forbid what is evil, not just those who do only one of the two.

The actual problem today is that we have misinterpreted the real meaning of
Nahy anil munkar. Nahy anil munkar does not refer to being hard, rough,
power, strength, weapons and the likes thereof, More Nahy anil munkar usually requires
authority and more Hikmah, Tablighi people forbid other from what is evil but through different polide style and according to their power.
A simple example will show us exactly what is Nahy anil munkar. A villager during the time of Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) entered Musjid-un-nabawiy and began urinating
in one corner of the Musjid. Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum) immediately wanted
to take action but were prevented by Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam).
Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) let the villager relieve himself
comfortably and thereafter called him aside and with love, compassion and
kindness made him understand that this is the house of Allah which is clean
and pure, etc. Look at the level of the evil that this villager had caused.
Urinating in front of Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) inside
Musjid-un-Nabawiy. Yet, look at how Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam)
carried out the duty of Nahy anil munkar.

In doing Amr bil Ma'roof as done by the brothers of the Tablighi Jamaat, they
encourage us to spend time in the path of Allah Ta'ala, so that once we are
in a pure environment, the Musjid, and listening and reading and giving dawah about mahruf we will automatically realize the Mahruf and understand the evil.

8 ? Some of them fall into self-admiration and arrogance, which leads them to look down on others, and even to look down on the scholars and describe them as inactive and sleeping, or to show off. So you find them talking about how they went out and travelled, and they saw such and such, which leads to unfavourable results, as we have mentioned.

9 ? They regard going out for da?wah as better than many acts of worship such as jihad and seeking knowledge, even though those things are obligatory duties, or may be obligatory for some people but not others.

10 ? Some of them audaciously issue fatwas, and discuss tafseer and hadeeth. That is because they allow each one of them to address the people and explain to them. This leads to them speak audaciously on matters of sharee?ah. So the inevitably speak of the meaning of a ruling, hadeeth or verse when they have not read anything about it, or listened to any of the scholars. And some of them are new Muslims or have only recently come back to Islam.

These are jus misconception and there is no such instructions from Tablighi Ulama and Leaders.there is clear concept for the importance of the Jihad, Seeking Knowledge and all other branches of islam.

The emphasis in Daawah and Tabligh is to revive Deen in a persons life. To remind a person of his purpose of life, to be obedient to Allah and conscientise him of death, life after death and accountability in the court of Allah. This is what is meant by basic Shari?ah.

If the above mentioned aspects are in a Muslims life, that will create an urge in him to learn Deen, to be a Haafiz or an Aalim. His faith will be strong enough for him to sacrifice a few years to go to an educational institute to study Deen in depth and work towards implementing that in one?s community and environment.
It is not expected of a person spending few months in Tabligh to be discussing the laws of Shariah. That is the work of scholars. Alhamdulillah, in many parts of the world, there are many Ulama who are the products of the effort of Daawat and Tabligh.

However, it is sad to note that some of the Tablighi brothers do not stay in the confines of these principles. Hence, creating a lot of confusion amongst the masses. Though the brothers are wrong, the work is noble and great and moreso the fundamental object of every prophet (Alayhis salaam).

11- Some of them are negligent with regard to the rights of their children and wives. We have discussed the seriousness of this matter in the answer to question no. 3043.

Yes some Emotional People can commit this otherwise there are clear instruction From Jamahat Ulamah and clarification are done at time of Taskeel. The seniors in Da'awah and Tabligh encourage people to go out in the path of Allah, but also take into cognizance one's personal circumstances as well.

Similarly the da?iyah must have knowledge. It is not permissible for a person to call people to Allah when he is ignorant. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

Does a person have to be a scholar to do Tableegh?

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Amr (RA): The Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said, "Convey (my teachings) to the people even if it were a single sentence, and tell others the stories of Bani Israel (which have been taught to you), for it is not sinful to do so. And whoever tells a lie on me intentionally, will surely take his place in the (Hell) Fire." (Bukhari)

Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Fath al-Baari: He said in the hadeeth, “even if it is one verse” so that everyone who heard him would hasten to convey whatever he heard of the verses, even if it was very little, so that in this manner everything that he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) brought would be conveyed.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: If a person understands what he is calling people to, it makes no difference whether he is a great and prominent scholar or a seeker of knowledge who is serious in his pursuit thereof, or a regular person who has certain knowledge of the issue in question. The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Convey from me, even if it is one verse,” and he did not stipulate that the daa’iyah (caller) should have reached a high level of knowledge, but it is essential that he should have knowledge of that to which he is calling people. But calling out of ignorance or calling based on emotion is not permissible.

More as mentioned above that The emphasis in Daawah and Tabligh is to revive Deen in a persons life. To remind a person of his purpose of life, to be obedient to Allah and conscientise him of death, life after death and accountability in the court of Allah. This is what is meant by basic Shari?ah not to be a Haafiz or an Aalim.

We should not keep the people away from them altogether, rather we must try to correct their mistakes and advise them so that their efforts will continue and they will be correct according to the Qur?an and Sunnah.

[Abdul-Fattah]

Selam aleykum,
Brother, first of all, I should mention my knowledge of Islam and different groups in it is to small to make any judgements in this issue, I merely posted the copy paste for those who care for it. And I realise that there's always two sides to any story. And I'm definitely in no position to judge anyone.

However your reply does leave me wondering. It seems that on several issues of the fatwa, you replied by distantiating the errors of those followers away from the organisation. In other words, saying that those who make those mistakes, are not following the guidelines of the organisation. But, I think the point of the fatwa was not that the organisation tells people to do this, but rather that the organisation creates an environment where people are easily inclined to do so.

And I have no knowledge of it, and Allah subhana wa ta'ala knows best.

[salman]

Originally Posted by hafizsaad

Brother salman please give a proof for your claim that ashari aqeedah are committing kufr.you have at once throw them out of islam.

akhee saad, please show me where I said that they are commuting kufr al-Akbar hence out of fold of Islam. Please brother, let be more just here.

Even if I did say that Ash'ari are commiting kufr then this is because:

1 - modern day ahs'aris or maturidis are not early kallabi ash'aris. They are the jahmis of the time of the Salaf. We all know what the Salaf said about them.

2 - some of the salaf said whoever believes that Allah is not above His throne separate from His creation in His Essence has committed kufr i.e., Imam Abu Hanifa. In fact, the 4th generation khalaf scholars (i.e., ibn Khuzaymah rahimahullah) has said this was the ijmaa'a of the Salaf.

Mufti Ibrahim Desai and his likes are the last people you want to quote to prove that neo-Ash'aris and Maturidis are on haqq. We are already aware of the aqeedah of deobandis and their likes in other part of the world.

If you want to prove your point then please bring something from the Salaf on issues which Ahlus Sunnah disagree with Ash'aris and Maturidis or those Khalaf scholars who were not influenced by this ash'ari maturidi creed.

Before quoting the Saudi scholars in support of Tableegh Jama'at few things need to keep in mind:

1 - The fatawa posted earlier by brother Abuld Fatteh comes from Saudi scholars including Shaykh Abdul Aziz ibn Bazz (rahimahullah) and Shakyh Salih al-Fawzaan (may Allah preserve him).

2 - There is a difference between Tabligh Jama'at in Arab lands and Tabligh Jama'at in Pakistan/India. The brothers in Arab lands have correct aqeedah, at least the one we have heard about from Saudia, and they do not use Fazail 'Amaal instead they use Riydah Saliheen. That is why Shakh Uthaymeen (rahimahullah) said: "But there is nothing wrong with the manhaj followed by our companions here in Saudi". However, the majority of brothers in Jama'at Tabligh from India/Pakistan are from deobandis. Average deobanids maybe free from corrupt ash'ari/maturidi aqeedah due to their fitrah; however, their people of knowledge are not. It is also possible that some brothers from India/Pakistan also join the brothers in Arab lands but that still doesn't solve deobandi aqeedah issue.

3 - No one here is taking anything away from them and what good they have done. however, we were simply quoting the scholars and to show the mistakes of brothers who are part of Jama'at Tableegh. The reason we bring this up is not shun them or anything but rather as a reminder and asking other laypeople to be aware of these problems so that they don't adopt the same mistakes.

and Allah knows best

[hafizsaad]

Originally Posted by Abdul-Fattah

Selam aleykum,

However your reply does leave me wondering. It seems that on several issues of the fatwa, you replied by distantiating the errors of those followers away from the organisation. In other words, saying that those who make those mistakes, are not following the guidelines of the organisation. But, I think the point of the fatwa was not that the organisation tells people to do this, but rather that the organisation creates an environment where people are easily inclined to do so.

And I have no knowledge of it, and Allah subhana wa ta'ala knows best.

Brother You are saying well.
The fatwa giver also have not judge personaly the Guidline and enviorment given by the jamahat. In fatwa there are only mentioned some bad character people and on the basis of these people whole jamahat has been tried to exposed. there is no detail about the Good People and Majority of people .Brother Good and bad people can be seen in every organisation even we can see the people who had ignored the teaching and proof of Prophet (PBUH) and come in the category of Hypocrites Like abdullah bin obae. Now we cant says (ilyaz u billa) that Prophet has given this enviorment to them.
I have seen the Propeganda vedio on youtube about jamahat tabligh by the people who say themselves salaf but i am sorry to say this is just a Irrational propeganda to mislead others and mainly point are taken from the fatwa you also have pasted and some double meaning sentenses of other ulamaha. i dont know why these people want to brake this dawah work through which there is a change in the whole world.Brother if you personaly search you will realize the different situation.
Allah subhana wa ta'ala knows best.

[hafizsaad]

Question :
Is it true that some Islamic scholars including Bin Baaz gave a fatwa saying that it is haram to follow jamaah tabligh?

Fatwa:
Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the Worlds; and may His blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.

We do not know of a Fatwa by Ibn Baz (Rahimahu Allah) in which he forbids going out with the Tablighi Jamah. On the contrary, we notice in his Fatawa that he incites to cooperate with them and to advise them.

In his response to Iwad Bin Iwad al-Kahtani, when the latter inquired about this group, he stated that it was confirmed from trustworthy people who kept company with them that they did not notice anything contradictory to the Shariah, or anything that would prohibit going out with them. He mentioned some of their positive effects on whomever accompanied them, and he does not see any harm in going out with them. The people of knowledge should cooperate with them and make up for any shortcomings that may result from them. Speech No. 1155 dated 05/09/1399 A.H.

In his response to Abdel-Selam Al-Sulaimani he stated that he learnt from trustworthy people who are impossible to lie, like the lecturers of Tawheed in the Islamic University (Al-Jami’a Al-Islamiya) and others, that the Tablighi group are patient in calling to Islam, being affectionate and steadfast. Allah guided, thanks to them, many people who are astray. Ibn Baz was advising the people of knowledge to participate with them in calling to Allah so that they would help each other. It is not appropriate to judge the Jama by the shortcoming of some individuals amongst them. It is incumbent upon a Muslim to advise his Muslim brothers with soft words, and not run away from them or make other people dislike them. Speech No. 325 dated 20/03/1406 A.H.

In his response to Ibrahim Abdurrahman al-Hussein Ibn Baz stated that he is still holding to his opinion in what he wrote about them previously, because, thanks to them, Allah benefited enormously other people, and guided many people. Therefore, we must thank them for their efforts and encourage them and draw their attention to things that they might not be aware of, because Muslims must advise each other. He urged people to go out with them and gather with them. He stated to those who contradict them the following:
“You have to stop criticizing them, or do what they have done.”
Speech dated 27/01/1407 A.H.

Ibn Baz responded also to Saad Bin Abderrahman Alhussayn to doctor Taki al-Dinn al-Hillali and criticized them about discrediting this group. He also responded to Fahih Bin Nafi’i when he criticized them, and praised them and confirmed his view by standing by their side but advising them with regard to the shortfall that could result from some of them, as everybody is subjected to imperfection, this is the human nature.

He stated that running away from them and warning people not to mix with them is a serious mistake as these causes more harm than benefit.
Speech No. 889, dated 12/08/1406 A.H.

Apart from Sheikh Ibn Baz, there are those who praised this group and those who criticized it.

A Muslim has to ask Allah often for guidance about things on which there is a difference of opinion, and to seek the truth without fanaticism, and to cooperate with those who work for Islam on whatever truth they are upon and not to imitate them if they deviate from the truth, nobody is infallible after the Prophets. The words and actions of every person could be accepted or rejected. However, we have to advise with wisdom whomever deviates from the truth, and explain to him the truth with the best manners.

We have to supplicate a lot with the supplication that the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) used to make at the beginning of the night prayer which is: “O, Allah! Lord of Jibreel, Mikaael, and Israafeel, Creator of the Heavens and the Earth, Knower of the Seen and the Unseen, You are the Arbitrator between Your Servants in that which they have disputed. Guide me to the truth by Your leave, in that which they have differed, for verify You guide whom You will to the straight path.”

In addition to this, we draw your attention to the fact that a person should be keen in educating himself, by learning what is required of Tawheed and Islamic rulings. To know that Allah has a right upon him, his body (soul) has a right upon him, and his wife (and family) has a right upon him, so he has to give the right of everybody. He has to benefit from the point of view of others on himself, and not to be content with oneself, and not to call to Allah except with something he is sure about, that it is from Allah and His Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam).

Allah knows best.


http://english.islamweb.net/ver2/Fatwa/ShowFatwa.php?lang=E&Id=87749&Option=FatwaId

[salman]

akhee, you are prolonging this discussion for no good reason. You have failed to understand many point and discuss the issue justly and objectively:

1 - No one is saying that there is no good in Jama'at Tableegh or we shouldn't do da'wah.

2 - Jama'at Tableegh in Arab is different than the one in Pakistan/India or those we see in West with Indo/pak influence.

3 - Even the fatwa you posted above makes it clear that some scholars advised people to not to join Indo/Pak Jama'at Tableegh and they allowed on the condition that it wouldn't affect their aqeedah. Others who praised then they did so because of Jama'at Tableegh in Arab lands and good found in this Jama'at in other parts of the world

4 - the purpose is to make it clear that Jama'at Tableegh from Indo/Pak has errors and one should be aware of them and not fall into same mistakes. This is not to overlook at good found in them or to shun them

5 - The fatawa you posted above hardly supports any of your points including the point that Shaykh ibn Bazz (rahimahullah) did not make that fatwa. He did make it, the reference is given. The mufti in the above fatawa made it clear that they are not aware if Shaykh (rahimahullah) made such a fatawa; this doesn't mean there is none.

Originally Posted by hafizsaad

This is also just a misconception . Infact tablighi jamahat basic mission is only the revival of deen and shariat in the world. If you will see the people who are serious in tabligh work , you will find in their families Qurah, Hufaz e Quran and Ulamah.I personlay telling you not for proundness but for awareness , My father start contributing in tabligh from 1970 and now my all brother are Qurah e Quran and one is studying In Darse Nizami for Alim.

memorizing the Qur'an or spending sometime in madrasa doesn't make a person knowledgeable. The fact is that many ameers and leaders of Jama'at have very little knowldge of shari'ah. The fact is that jama'at pushes more toward giving da'wah than first learning and then giving da'wah. How many times in the masjid they ask, who want to go for 10 days, 3 days, etc.? A dai'i need to be 100% certain that he knows what he is talking about so that he doesn't say anything wrong.

Originally Posted by hafizsaad

The fact is that Qitaal is only the last and final resort in a situation where no other way of reconciliation is found. Thus Qitaal is not the actual object (Maqsoodul Asl) of Jihad.
Tafsir Mazhari explains in the explaination of "كُتِبَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْقِتَالُ وَهُوَ كُرْهٌ لَكُمْ” (2:216), that the virtue of Jihad is above all other rewards because it is a means of spreading Islam and a means of guidance for the mankind. Thus anyone who gets guided from this effort, his reward will be added to the rewards of those strugglers (mujahidîn) who became the means of his guidance.

Ulema have clarified that Prayer, Fast etc are more virtuous than Jihad since they are the actual objectives themselves (Maqasid Li’einehi) and that is above Jihad. This is because the objective of Jihad is to bring more and more people to practice according to Imaan and good morals. This is even strengthened by the saying of Ibn Abideen who said that, there is no doubt that Faraidh of Salaah and Zakaah etc. are more virtuous than Jihad since one is actual obligation (Fardh ul Ain) and the later is sufficient obligation (Fardh ul Kifaaya) and that the Jihad is ordained only to establish Salâah and Imaan. This is why its goodness is not within itself rather because of the goodness of another action that comes because of it (Hasan lighayrihi). And goodness of Salâah is within itself. Thus any effort made for establishing the Hasan Li’einihi becomes Hasan Lighairihi.

Imaam Bukhari (rahimuhullah alayh) in his Saheeh has presented the following hadeeth in Book of Jihad (Kitaab ul Jihad):
مَا اغْبَرَّتْ قَدَمَا عَبْدٍ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَتَمَسَّهُ النَّارُ
No dust afflicts a slave in path of Allah, lest that the fire touches it

Then Imam Bukhari (rahimuhullah alayh) establishes a whole chapter regarding walking for the Salaatul Jumma, and presents a similar hadeeth as follows:
مَنْ اغْبَرَّتْ قَدَمَاهُ فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ حَرَّمَهُ اللَّهُ عَلَى النَّارِ
Those feet which get soiled in path of Allah, Allah will make fire Haraam on them.

Please note that the second hadeeth is regarding going in path of Allah and Imam Bukhari (rahimuhullah alayh) has made it precedence (Istadlaal) for going to Jummah Salâah. Thus we may conclude that “fi sabil illah” has more than one connotation. Also, if Imam Sahib (rahimuhullah alayh) can do this much, then why is it so hard to understand that the scholars of Tableegh (Ulema e Muballigheen) have used them as precedence for going out in path of Allah for uplifting the word of Allah. Why can we blame the muballigheen and not Imam Sahib (rahimuhullah alayh)?
Finally, one more aspect that needs to be addressed here is that by proving the meaning of Jihad for Da’wah Ila Allah and fortifying the security and safety of Islam, does not mean that Qitaal is completely waived off. Remember that the Military Jihad is a branch within the branches of Jihad. For complete Detail on this topic see following Link.

How can Jamaat Tableegh use the ahadeeth of Jihad as a parable to them "going out" in path of Allah?

this copy paste actually proves the fatawa point

No one denied da'wah is not jihad and there is great reward for it. however, you cannot compare it with jihad al-qital with twisted logic and reasoning. Neither you can use statements regarding jihad al-qital and convert them into jihad al-dawah; this is a wrong ta'weel. btw, jihad al-qital can also be fard ayan.

In addition, you will have to bring scholarly statements to back up all that you copied.

Originally Posted by hafizsaad

Is it a bidah to Go out with Tablighi jamahat and giving dawah through other new way like Through internet ?
It should be noted that Shariah has not prescribed a special format for the Dawah effort. Whether it is performed by going to homes as Jama’ah Tabligh does, or through writings or publications, or through any other means, the responsibility would be discharged. This explains that it is not Fard Ayn for every Muslim to participate in the work of Tablighi Jamat because
a) Dawah at the general level is not Fard Ayn and
b) the particular style of work adopted by the Tablighi Jama’ah is not mandated by the Shariah.
It must be pointed out that this method is tried and tested. It is effective and became a means of guidance for many people from all around the world and it has been greatly beneficial and it has proven to be an effective means of countering the work of anti-religious forces, therefore cooperating with this Jama’ah and participating in its work to the maximum extent possible is an act of great reward. Doing it with balance and within the limits prescribed by the jurists is a very effective means of protecting ourselves and the Ummah.

no one is saying the method itself is shari bida' rather the shykah said that it is a shari bida' if the method is taken as an act of ibadah. If people consider this method as an act of ibadah then they will not bring evidence from shari'ah and they got none

Originally Posted by hafizsaad

It is just a misconception about work. It has no reality. Tablighi jamahat believe on struggle for dawah in the whole world not just dua.May be an ignorant person has thought like this.we should not blame his personal thought to whole jamahat .

i guess this could be a misconceptions

Originally Posted by hafizsaad

Fazail aamal is a book on virtues (fazail) not masail, its accepted that it has zaeef ahadeeth, but those can be considered in case of fazail, not masail.

The actions of Ulama (of the past) will make it clear that it is not a crime to use weak Ahadeeth, provided that rules set forth by the Muhadeetheen are followed.

brother but do you know that they also placed strict conditions? Do you know those conditions? Can every single person apply those conditions?

Please do not post links to deviant heretical sites

Originally Posted by hafizsaad

Does a person have to be a scholar to do Tableegh?

brother, you have misunderstood the whole thing: hadith, statment of the scholars and objection to which you replied. First, the shaykh didn't say that a person has to be a scholar to do da'wah rather what is understood from his speech and rest of quotes you posted is that a person must have knowledge of what he is saying. Da'wah doesn't involve calling people to practice Islam and teaching them few ayaat but it also involves answering people's questions about different rulings and giving them information for which a detailed knowledge is required, which is sadly not found among many ameers of Jama'at Tableegh.

Originally Posted by hafizsaad

We should not keep the people away from them altogether, rather we must try to correct their mistakes and advise them so that their efforts will continue and they will be correct according to the Qur?an and Sunnah.

this is what I have said from the start and many would agree with me. However, Islah (correction) can be carried out only by those who have knowledge and not every single person. In addition, if person giving da'wah does not have much knowledge then he is prone to make mistakes and if the listeners do not have sound aqeedah then they may follow his mistakes and that is why some scholars advised against joining them.

and Allah knows best

I think we have discussed this issue enough, time to close it