Wikislam lies

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Old 02-09-2009, 11:00 AM   #11
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Im afraid to burst peoples bubbles here but you can't "edit" their options. They hav moderators there and the pinnicle principle that is stated in their policy in one of their pages is
"we only accept those sayings of Islam according to the non muslims"

In other words, anything that is "positive" whether it is written by a non muslim or not will therefore be moderated and deleted under the mandates of this rule.
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Wikislam is old. There is no point in trying to edit any of them or even hacking. They will have it up and spread their rubbish and will not tolerate spreading authentic information.

The domain name is nice...
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This wikisite is full of lies against Islam, Quran, Sunnah,Prophet (saws) and other things. One needs to create an account there to edit it and i don't have time, so if anyone else wants to take a shot inshallah....

http://www.**************/wiki/Qur%2...lars:Main_Page
There's no point, because those looking for refutations aren't likely to want to go there or the discussion section. Also, the wikiislam cockroaches can delete or edit your comments as much as they please.

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The domain name is nice...
Nice and deceptive (for them), because it implies it's an Islamic site, not an anti-Islamic site. I first thought it was an Islamic site, until I read the content on there.

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Please tell us about the authenticity of this hadith :

Muhammad saw Um Habiba the daughter of Abbas while she was fatim (age of nursing) and he said, "If she grows up while I am still alive, I will marry her."[7]
Musnad Ahmad, Number 25636
I think this is the narration in Arabic:

حدثنا عبد الله حدثني أبى ثنا يعقوب قال ثنا أبى عن بن إسحاق قال وحدثني حسين بن عبد الله بن عباس عن عكرمة مولى عبد الله بن عباس عن عبد الله بن عباس عن أم الفضل بنت الحرث : ان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم رأى أم حبيب بنت عباس وهي فوق الفطيم قالت فقال لئن بلغت بنية العباس هذه وأنا حي لأتزوجنها

Sheikh Arnaoot said that the chain is weak because the isnaad includes Hussein bin Abdullah who is weak (Footnote of Hadith Number 26912 -
Source).

Haythami also said it's isnaad includes Hussein bin Abdullah bin Abbas (his longer name), and he is matrook [abandoned].(Majma Al-Zawa'id, 4/279 -
Source).


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"Weak" (Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani: Al-Taqrib and Ad-Dhahabi's: Al-Kashif).



Moreover, this site declares the narrator weak. So, the chain is weak, but I don't know if the text of the hadith is sahih, because I don't know if there are other chains which are strong, that have the same text.

If we accept the narration's text, it doesn't prove the skeptic's point. The narration doesn't give the reason as to why he wanted to marry her. It's worth noting:


"Her father was one of the strongest and bitterest enemies of the Prophet."
[Dr. Ahmad Muhammad El Howfy - Why the Prophet Muhammad Married More Than One - Arab Republic Of Egypt, 1993 - Page 34 - Source].

It's possible that the Prophet wanted to marry her to reduce the bitterness of her father and bring tribes & her father closer to Islam. Also, according to the same book, they did get married.


More on Umm Habiba here.

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