Physiological effects of receiving revelation?

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Old 02-09-2010, 06:54 PM   #1
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We have reports about the physiological effects on the Prophet of receiving revelation which was not possible for him to intentionally fake which is summarised in the following paragraph from Al-Raheeq al-Makhtum:

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The angel came to him like the toll of a bell and this was the most difficult form because the angel used to seize him tightly and sweat would stream from his forehead even on the coldest day. If the Prophet [pbuh] was on his camel, the camel would not withstand the weight, so it would immediately kneel down on the ground. Once the Messenger of Allâh [pbuh] had such a revelation when he was sitting and his thigh was on Zaid’s, Zaid felt the pressure had almost injured his thigh.
A person cannot sweat on a cold day on-demand, can they? And it's not possible for him to apply such a large amount of weight by himself without an external force, right?

Is there a reason why I never see this aspect discussed in attempts to prove that Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) was truthful about receiving revelation? I usually only hear people talking about his character/personality and the fact that he cannot have been a madman but nobody discusses this aspect.

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Salam

The disbelievers will always find an excuse to disbelieve. They could simply say the reports are not accurate, that it happened a long time ago, that the stories were made up, that Muhammad(pbuh)'s companions were brainwashed by him, etc etc.
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I agree with salamfromrom,

Excusers needs excuse. If anyone can believe in non existence of God or 3 in 1 , 1 in 3 God than they can easily reject this.
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I think in general, arguing about something exist and can be seen there is better than something happened in the past and can't be seen anymore. People can see the greatness of Quran even if they sometimes deny it.
But to tell someone about the physiological effects of receiving revelation can be denied because they will ask about the truthfulness of such incidents/narrations.
They even can come up with some stupid excuses like being obsessed by a Jin or something like that.
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JazakAllah Khayr for the replies. I understand what you all are saying. But if that is the case, why would we use the argument about the Prophet's truthfulness in character? The Non-Muslims could argue about the authenticity of that information too.

However, I do agree that the miraculous nature of the Qur'an should always be used as the main proof.
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A person cannot sweat on a cold day on-demand, can they?
I can. Infact most people do.

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And it's not possible for him to apply such a large amount of weight by himself without an external force, right?

Is there a reason why I never see this aspect discussed in attempts to prove that Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) was truthful about receiving revelation? I usually only hear people talking about his character/personality and the fact that he cannot have been a madman but nobody discusses this aspect.
thats because anyone who discusses it has lost their brains. I know of only one person who took upon himself to bear the brunt of having no brains, that being Ali Sina, and then his blind followers follow suit in his insanity thus making them more insane than him.
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You can make yourself sweat at will?

I don't understand . :( You don't think this aspect can be used as part of the liar/madman argument?
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Are there many narrations which describe the effect that receiving revelation had on Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) in the physical sense?
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I think in general, arguing about something exist and can be seen there is better than something happened in the past and can't be seen anymore. People can see the greatness of Quran even if they sometimes deny it.
But to tell someone about the physiological effects of receiving revelation can be denied because they will ask about the truthfulness of such incidents/narrations.
They even can come up with some stupid excuses like being obsessed by a Jin or something like that.

As you said sister. The Qur'an is the best proof of Muhammad's, sall-Allahu alaihi wa salams', prophecy.

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Are there many narrations which describe the effect that receiving revelation had on Prophet Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam) in the physical sense?
You can find this information in the book of emaan by Mummadad Na'im Yassin. I'll seach it. How do you copy and paste from pdf?
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In my opinion, it is important to propagate the character of the Messanger by Allah. A Messanger was chosen so that His, saws', manners fit the task and set a good example for people to follow.

Please read the book I'll paste( pg # 65). It lists the miracles of the Prophet, sall-Allahu alaihi wa salam, by which Allah supported Muhammad, saws'. I remeber I have read yout subject in this book, I can't find it.

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