Sunnipath or Islamqa? (Split from Trustworthy Fatwa Sites)

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Old 04-06-2008, 09:46 AM   #1
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asalam alaikum


sunnipath is questionable.. ? Allahu a'lam
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Old 04-06-2008, 11:49 AM   #2
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Assalamu Alaikum

im aware that Nuh Ha Mim Kella allows that which wasnt practised by the earlier generations, he also permits singing and dancing (according to the shadhili order... which is very questionable also!)

It is very questionable, i advise everyone to proceed it with the utmost caution.
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^ BarakAllahu Feek. :)
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Old 04-06-2008, 02:44 PM   #4
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I would not trust sunnipath, they are not all up there. As for "disturbing" fatwas at islamqa, perhaps you can point those out to us?
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asalamu alaikum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh


relax guys, we've let the link be there and sis Zara gave her views on IslamQA, others gave their opinions on sunnipath, so thats it.


we should get over this arguing and try to be more 'mature' :p lol insha Allah..
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Wa'alaikum as'salam wr wb

There is no arguing and nor is it a matter of "maturity" bro. Isn't a forum for the purpose of debating and discussing? I made my comments about sunnipath based what i've read there and what other's have said about it. Other's can agree with this or not, it's their choice. Same goes for Islamqa, but would like to know what these "disturbing" fatwas were since i know how qualified are the people at islamqa vs sunnipath. And i ask out of curiosity to see such fatwas myself and not to start a fight here. And besides, our goal here is to seek knowledge and stand for the Haqq and not avoid "arguing" so we can be "nice" rather than reach the truth.
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Assalamu Alaikum

All scholars make mistakes, we take from the ones upon the manhaj and aqeedah closest to the salaf us-salih.

Im sure every scholar has made a disturbing fatwa or two

inshaAllah we should all be at ease and allow this topic to remain free from any fitnah or impurity inshaAllah.
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Selam aleykum,

I did said "slightly".. Brother islamram I will try to find them inshaAllah, just give me some time OK? The site has a lot of fatawa so it'll take a lil' while, inshaAllah.

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Assalamu Alaikum

All scholars make mistakes, we take from the ones upon the manhaj and aqeedah closest to the salaf us-salih.
OK, this was actually all I wanted to know.


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Im sure every scholar has made a disturbing fatwa or two, did Imam Abu Hanifa at a point not think that the Quran was created till Qadhi Abu Yusuf corrected him after months of long debate.
I'm sorry my brother, I disagree with this. No, I do not believe it happened according to what I have been learned so... :)
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Assalamu Alaikum

Im searching for the fatwa of mufti ibn adam al-kawthari in which i read that. Till then please bare with me... i'll post it in a seperate thread inshaAllah.
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Inshallah take your time sis zahra.

Btw, i wouldn't be all too confident with hanafi rulings that come out of Indian subcontinent. Imam Hanafi was a great imam alhamdulillah but his access to knowledge/books was some what limited to compared to the other imams. And most of what hanafi's believe is only half based on what Imam Haneefah taught, other half is their local sheihks innovations. I come from Hanafi background as well, but I take my deen from Quran and sunnah regardless of which madhab it is from. :)
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