Refuting Sufis Who Say We Can See the Prophet (s) While Awake

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Sheikh Salih Al Munajjid said...


With regard to seeing the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when one is awake, this is akin to Sufi myths, and there is no basis for that in sharee’ah or in real life. Tremendous events befell the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them) after the death of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and they were in the greatest need of seeing him among them, so why did he not appear to them, and why did they not see him when he was the dearest of people to them and they were the dearest of people to him?

With regard to some of them quoting the hadeeth that is narrated in al-Saheehayn from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) – that he said, “Whoever sees me in a dream will see me when he is awake” – as evidence that it is possible to see the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when one is awake, there is nothing in this hadeeth to support what they say. Rather it is glad tidings to the one who sees him in a dream, that he will see him in Paradise. It does not mean that he will see him when he is awake in this world.

Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Some of the righteous erred and claimed that it is possible to see him with one’s own eyes.

Fath al-Baari, 12/384.

Al-Nawawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, concerning the meaning of the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “he will see me when he is awake”, there are a number of opinions concerning this.

1 – That what is meant is the people of his own time, i.e., that whoever saw him in a dream and had not migrated, Allaah would enable him to migrate and to see him with his own eyes when he was awake.

2 – That he would see the confirmation of that dream whilst awake in the Hereafter, because all of his ummah will see him in the Hereafter.

3 – That he will see him in a specific sense in the Hereafter, by being close to him and attaining his intercession, and so on.

Sharh Muslim, 15/26

What al-Nawawi mentioned in the first opinion is not contradicted by the opinion of al-Haafiz ibn Hajar that it is not possible to see him, because al-Nawawi stated that what was meant was the people of his own time, and what al-Haafiz was objecting to was those who claim to have seen him in a real sense after he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died.

Abu’l-‘Abbaas al-Qurtubi said, refuting those who said that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) could be seen when one is awake:

This idea (that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) may be seen when one is awake) may easily be refuted by common sense, because it implies that no one can see him except in the form in which he died, and that two people may see him at the same time in two different places, and that he may come to life sometimes and emerge from his grave and walk about in the marketplaces and converse with the people. That implies that his body is not in his grave and there is nothing left in his grave, so the grave is visited and salaam is said to one who is not there, because he may be seen by night and by day in his real form outside his grave.

Quoted by al-Haafiz ibn Hajar in Fath al-Baari, 12/384

Moreover, if it were true that someone could see the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he is awake, then he would be one of his companions and there would be Sahabaah until the Day of Resurrection.

Al-Haafiz ibn Hajar al-‘Asqallaani stated that Ibn Abi Jamrah narrated from some of the Sufis that they saw the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in a dream, then they saw him after that when they were awake, and they asked him about some things which they were worried about, and he told them how to deal with them, and they followed his advice and achieved the desired results. Then al-Haafiz commented on that by saying: This is very odd. If we interpret it as it appears to be, then these people would be Sahaabah, and there could be Sahaabah until the Day of Resurrection. But this may be refuted by the fact that many people see him when they are asleep but no one says that that they saw him when they were awake, so there is an inconsistency.

Fath al-Baari, 12/385



The scholars of the Standing Committee said, refuting the beliefs of al-Tijaani:

There is no proven report from the Rightly-Guided Caliphs or from the rest of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them), who are the best of mankind after the Prophets, that any of them claimed to have seen the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he was awake. It is well known, and no Muslim has any excuse for not knowing, that the religion was completed during the lifetime of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and that Allaah perfected this ummah’s religion for it and completed His Favour upon it before the death of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):

“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion”

[al-Maa’idah 5:3]

So there can be no doubt that what Ahmad al-Tijaani claims, that he saw the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he was awake, and learned the Tijani tareeqah from him orally when he was awake, and that he told him what wird to recite to remember Allaah (dhikr) and send blessings upon His Messenger, is false and is evident misguidance.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 2/325, 326

They also said:

The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died after having conveyed the Message in full and after Allaah had perfected His religion through him and established proof against His creation through him. His companions (may Allaah be pleased with them) offered the funeral prayer for him and buried him where he died, in the room of ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her). After him came the Rightly-Guided Caliphs, during whose time events occurred which they dealt with on the basis of their own reasoning (ijtihad), and they did not refer concerning any of them to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Whoever claims after that to have seen the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) when he was awake, living and speaking to him, or to have heard anything from him before the Day of Resurrection, his claim is false, because it goes against the texts, the narrated reports and the laws of Allaah that govern His creation. There is nothing in this hadeeth to suggest that he will be seen when one is awake in this world, because it could be interpreted as meaning, “he will see me in the Hereafter,” or it may mean, “he will see the interpretation of his dream”, because this dream is true according to what is stated in other reports, namely that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “… he has indeed seen me.” The believer may truly see the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in his dream in the form in which he appeared when he was alive.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/486, 487.



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this is really good refutation because sufis say ibn hajar was a sufi.. so if he refuted them, then alhamdulillah its even better.
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