This is a discussion on Hamza Yusuf's Organization Promotes Sufism within the Deviants and Heretics forums, part of the iDawah Refutations Discussion category; ^ Bro I like what you say that deviant sects should be given no place in Saudia but certainly in America which is not our ...
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| ^ ![]() Bro I like what you say that deviant sects should be given no place in Saudia but certainly in America which is not our land , the situation is different but isnt like that where ever we are , we should hold fast to the true teachings and shun the deviants? What if west take the image given by Hamza Yusuf as that of true Islam and they find faults in its aqeedah then they will have overall wrong impression of Islam...
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| I would just like to let our brother Salaman to know that Jarh wa Tadeel should not be in the hands of the Tulab al Ilm eventhough Hamza Yusuf himself makes his Aqeedah clear given by his various talks what is happneing nower days with thos who attribute themselves to the Manhaj is that they start to refute other students of knolwedge like them selves this seems like a type of deviation itself; not my word but that of our Sheikh, Sheikh Al Albani Rahimahullah “Listen my brother. I sincerely advise you and other youths like you, who stand upon a type of deviation –as it seems to us- and Allah (aw) knows best – do not waste your time in refuting each other, saying that such and such has this in him, and such and such has that in him. This is because, firstly: there is no knowledge at all in this, and secondly: this mannerism only breeds enmity and hatred in the hearts, and causes contempt and rancor to develop in the hearts. So it is upon you to seek knowledge. It is knowledge that will make clear to you the reality of the speech which is in praise of a particular person having many mistakes, and whether he is deserving of being labeled as an innovator. Yet why do we wish to delve into such issues. Indeed I advise you not to delve into such issues. The reality is that we complain about this splitting which has occurred between those who ascribe themselves to the da’wah to the Book and the Sunnah. The greatest cause of this splitting, and Allah (aw) knows best, is the following of whims and desires and the evil dictates of one’s soul. It is not due to the presence of differences in thoughts and ideas. So this is my sincere advice.” [Silsilatul Hudaa wan-Noor (784/1), dated the 1st of Rabi’al Awwal 1414H, (9-12-1993)] |
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| Shaykh ‘Abdul-‘Azeez Bin Baaz: “What has become common in this age, is that many of those who ascribe themselves to knowledge and calling to good, fall into belittling many of their brothers who are well known daa’ees, and speaking against the honor of the students of knowledge and the daa’ees. This is done sometimes secretly in their circles, sometimes on cassettes which are then circulated amongst the people, or sometimes publicly mentioned in their gatherings in the mosques. And this manner opposes the command of Allah (aw) and His Messenger (saaw) from a number of angles. So I sincerely advise those brothers who have fallen into slandering and maligning the daa’ees, that they should repent to Allah (aw), for what they have written with their own hands, and what they have said with their own tongues; which may have been a cause for corrupting the hearts of some of the youths; filling their hearts with hatred and malice, and preoccupying them away from acquiring beneficial knowledge and calling to Allah (aw), because of being preoccupied with qeel and qaal (“It is said,” and “He said”, i.e. rumor mongering), and with speech about this person and that person, and with hunting for the mistakes of people, and burdening them with this. Likewise, I sincerely advise them that they should redress whatever they have done, and declare themselves free from the likes of those actions through writing or methods other than this. They should remove whatever may have entered the minds and thoughts of those who listened to them, and they should take to doing those fruitful actions that will draw them closer to Allah (aw), and which will be of benefit to the worshippers. They should beware of being hasty in pronouncing takfeer (declaring one a kaafir), tafseeq (declaring one a corrupt sinner), or tabdee‘ (declaring one an innovator) upon people, without the truth being explained, and without the proofs being established. The Prophet (saaw) said: "Whoseover says to his brother:’O unbeliever’ then it will return to one of them." (Bukhaaree & Muslim) [Majmoo’ Fatawa wa Maqalat Mutanawwi’ah (7/311-314), abridged.] |
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