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| : ![]() Shaykh Hamza Yusuf's institute, Zaytuna, promotes sufism, deviant practices and innovations as Imam Yusuf Estes says. I say Shaykh Hamza Yusuf should be given the credit for his work in the west and useful audio/video taps and lectures etc. However, it is also important to note that he is not the person from whom the lay people should take the 'aqeedah. He is a puesdo-Ash'ari; thus, not upon the correct 'aqeedah. It is the fact that he goes around and rant about the "Wahabis"/"Salafis" and it is not surprising when we know his 'aqeedah. In addition, from what I heard, he is known for modern interpretation of Islamic text to please the non-Muslims and most likely part of Shaykh Yusuf Qardawi's group. Also, he is sufi and part of GF Haddad, Nuh Keller, Faraz Rabaani's group. It is well known that when these Ash'aris and Jahmis can't defend their Hadhrat Aristotle's believes, they resort to insults and false accusations against the Sunni 'ulama and paint all the Salafi/Sunni 'ulama (scholars) and those who loves and respect them with the same brush. It has been approximately 11 centuries since the Ash'aris' came up with their supposedly sunni creed and in every era their 'ulama got debunked by the Sunni 'ulama. In fact, Shaykh ul-Islam (ibn Taymiyyah - rahimahullah) gave the Ash'ari 'ulama of his time three years to find something from the history which would prove that their 'aqeedah comes from the Qur'an, Sunnah and the understanding of the Salaf. So what happened? Maybe let's wait for an Ash'ari to answer this question. Wallahu A'lam (and Allah knows best) Anyway, let's read what Imam Yusuf Estes has to say, First Message: Hamza Yusuf - Where did he go wrong? By: Shaykh Yusuf Estescontinuing..
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| continuing with Imam Yusuf Estes letter/message about Shaykh Hamza Yusuf's institution/organization and his beliefs. Second Message: Someone who had complained about his first email Bismillah Rahman RaheemSource: What Hamza Yusuf, Nuh Ha Mim Keller the Jahmiyyah, Abdal Hakim Murad, Hisham Kabbani, Ramadan al-Buti, Hasan Turabi, Hassan Saqqaaf, WALLACE WARITH DEEN MOHAMMED, Professor Abdul Hadi Plazzi has to do with Islam?
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| SubhanAllah! JazakAllah for sharing this. I once someone through a search engine visited Hamza Yusufs website and although at that time I didnt made much understanding of the correct Aqeedah and still I am learning but I was able to figure out that this guys' got it all wrong. He is i think on one extreme side of Sufiism . Yusuf Estes is my favourite preacher! The way he talks , explains is simple and beautiful! May Allah be pleased with him and He with Him.
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| :i havnt read all of this, but this quote caught my eye... Quote:
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| ^Wa'alaykum As-Salam sister, i didn't mean group in sense of hizb (a complete different sect/group) but i meant that Shaykh is known for his 'modern interpretations' of the Islamic text for some issues i.e. apostasy, music. Wallahu A'lam
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| His articles are mainly found on IslamOnline.net and the most deviant interpretation of his is the permissibility of music. Really the prophecy of Prophet SAW is true that some people will allow use of musical instruments...nowdays so called religious scholars like him have allowed the use of music.
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| As-Salam Alaykum. My humble suggestion is not to get involved in such attacks against people like Shaykh Hamza Yusuf. We are not qualified to be bashing him. Wallahu Aalim. Fi Aman Allah
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| ^Wa'alaykum As-Salam brother no one is bashing him from their own views or without any evidence. This is what I said: Shaykh Hamza Yusuf's institute, Zaytuna, promotes sufism, deviant practices and innovations as Imam Yusuf Estes says. I say Shaykh Hamza Yusuf should be given the credit for his work in the west and useful audio/video taps and lectures etc. However, it is also important to note that he is not the person from whom the lay people should take the 'aqeedah.Wallahu A'lam
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I think that excessive shunning of other groups will only isolate us, instead of the intended goal, which is to shun the innovators. I agree with the principle when it is used in a country like Saudia, but I do not think it applies as much in a land like America...In Saudia, the innovators should be isolated and they should never be given teaching positions, etc....but in the West, it is a different situation: Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said that in the land of the Rawaafidh and Mutazila, the Asharis are Ahl as-Sunnah. So what about in the land of the kufaar, Islamaphobes, etc? Wallahu Aalim. Like I said, the Salafis will only isolate themselves if they do that. I am not at all knowledgeable on this issue. I need to investigate it myself...I just think that we shouldn't assume that it is as simple as we have been taught by certain Salafi groups who are known for their overzealousness.Again, if you have certain knowledge about this, then reject what I say, since I am just conjecturing and talking aloud. Forgive me.Fi Aman Allah
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