> Why we don't have to be Shia'?

[Haqekka']

Originally Posted by Ibn Ilyas

Assalamu Aleykum ww
..

3. And They are most similar to the jews.

..

I was thinking the same,both are great examples of Munafiqoon ,ustaqfir-Allah!


Sis Unknown-do you mean their Shahada is not valid?

How we have to treat them-like Muslims or like Kuffar ?

[Aayah]

^ They are very close to Jews since the Jewish Abdullah Ibn Saba' was the one who started the Shia sect I told you about called Sabai'ah (named after him) where he considered Ali as a God.

[Ibn Ilyas]

Wallahi they are the worst.

I hate them, they revile our mothers. It is as if someone comes into my home and start cursing my mother, that is how every muslim should regard the shiaa, who curse the mother of the believers.

[Tema]

Sis Unknown-do you mean their Shahada is not valid?

How we have to treat them-like Muslims or like Kuffar ?

I don't know. I know that if you deny a hadeeth or a verse of the Qur'aan, you have damaged your shahadat and if you don't repent and still deny, you're not a complete Muslim.

I know that we have to have a "negative feeling" toward those who commit shirk and that we can't take them for CLOSE friends and not allow them into our personal life, however, we must treat them with kindness so they might accpt Allah and His Messenger, saws.We are kind to them so they might please Allah

On the other hand, apostates are killed because they have disappointed Allah greatly.

So, we deal differently with kuffar and apostates. I don't know in which one of these categoried they fall under. Thank you for asking and I request that someone responds to questions you have directed to me.

[salman]

The main issue with extreme shia rafidha is that they commit clear cut shirk. They raise the status of 12 imaams to Allah, they worship these imaams by makinf du'as to them, they believe Qur'an has be fabricated, and they revile the companions (radiAllahu anhuma) of Allah's Messenger (sal-allahu alayhi wa sallam) and believe that they apostatized.

As far whether they are Muslims or not, then not all shais are Muslims or kafir. The extreme shias, who believe in what I mentioned above, are kafir while others are not.

and Allah knows best

[Aayah]

sister, there is a TV channel called "Wesal" that Sheikh Mohammad Al Arifi greatly contributed on this channel very recently just to show the world the truth of Shia.....you will be LITERALLY shocked of what you will see there. May Allah save us, Alhumdulilah for the grace of the Islam.

He is quoting them from their main books, their websites and from their scholars' speech. So many things that neither public books nor TV channels will show to the public.

[sirajstc]

Originally Posted by Aayah

This can take for ever to talk about their false beliefs. Shia are not one sect, there are many sects of Shia starting from the most extreme one the Saba'eiah who believe that Ali Bin Abi Talib (May Allah be pleased with him) is the God -this sect is not exist anymore-, ending with the "moderate" Shia who have the slightest hate toward the companion of the prophet but still have so many false belief.

I will point out the most important things:

1. Insluting great companions of the prophet like Abu Baker, Umar, Uthman may Allah be pleased with them all with the most awful words.

2. They allow the Mut'ah (temporary) marriage, its not really a marriage. A better explanation for it can be an "arranged fornication" and it can be for hours, days, months, or years. This is a clear fornication but in a different form.

3. They always hide what they believe in, you can see them smiling and be very kind with you, but they are doing what they call "Tuqiah" which means hiding the real belief. They do this because they think if they hide what they believe in they are getting rewards for that and protecting their faith.

4. Many of them consider the "Hajj" to Karbala in Iraq (where Al-Hussain died-the prophet grandson- may Allah be pleased with him) is better than the Hajj to Macca!!!

5. They consider harming any Sunni person as a noble act that bring lots of reward from Allah even if they show kindness to them, because they hide what they do to them.


6. Some of them (the extreme maybe) Think that the Quran we use now is fabricated, and the real Quran is hidden somewhere where the Imam Ali (May Allah be pleased with him) is mentioned by name there

More about it posted in this forum too:
The Fabricated Quran by Shia
Why Shia and Sunni Conflict?
Shi'a:They wanted to insult the prophet but they didn't dare


Here are some other links about their belief:
Temporary marriage

Agreed!!!

---------- Post added at 12:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:30 AM ----------

No sunni No shia! We are united Muslims



Place only "Muslim" on your religious views, if you want to state your religion. Islam is our religion.

[hafizsaad]

Originally Posted by Haqekka'

They have new mosques everywere......
They have new members everywere......
There are all over internet,tv and radio.......
Many books (cheap),leaflets.......
They smile and give you a even a small gift....

Why we don't have to be Shia'?
What is your
1)
2)
3)

What to advice my new muslim sisters,married to shiits?

Shia Muslim or Kafir , Decide your self

Original Scanned References of SHIAs Authentic Books

The site which i am giving is a sunni muslim site of pakistan. it is banned due to influnce of shia in pakistan you can search it from this link...

Shia Books Scan Pages .

Here is the original English link for shia main book usool kafi, you can see yourself what they have belief.
introduction

Kitab al-Kafi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Selections from Usul al Kafi

Untitled Document

Nahjul Balagha (Peak of Eloquence)