> Biblical God Became Flesh

[Parture]

Allah became flesh only possible because Jesus is God in the Tripersonal Godhead.

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1.14).

"Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied." (1 Pet. 1.2)

[salman]

I've edited the title to address the correct issue because Praise to be Allah Ta'ala, He is not like the God of the Bible and nor there's anything in comparison to Him. I'll respond later to what you have posted.

[Parture]

Allah simply means God without specifying any details about God; Christians in Iran call God Allah, but they consider Mohammed as a man who is definitely going to Hell and the Allah of the Koran to be Satan. Allah of the Bible-God of the Bible-in one language is not Allah of the Koran in the same language, obviously, because Jesus never killed, but Mohammed was a murderer and child molester.

[Acid]

Hi

Allah is an exclusive word which in Arabic means The God. Allah is used worldwide by Muslims to refer to the One True Eternal God. You can call your god as God or Lord or Lord of the Lords or whatever.

[salman]

Originally Posted by Parture

Allah simply means God without specifying any details about God

how can we answer sheer ignorance?

Originally Posted by Parture

Christians in Iran call God Allah, but they consider Mohammed as a man who is definitely going to Hell and the Allah of the Koran to be Satan

do you expect something else from your brotherns? duh!

Originally Posted by Parture

Allah of the Bible-God of the Bible-in one language is not Allah of the Koran in the same language, obviously, because Jesus never killed, but Mohammed was a murderer and child molester.

Since you're intellectually challenged and never learned to discuss something; thus you restore to slandering and make a fool of yourself by exposing your ignorance, let me say this:
1) stick to the topic
2) according to your Bible your lord jesus didn't protect his prophets (what a wonderful god) and he is a terrorist, mass murderer who ordered Jews to destroy everything except the virgins. He doesn't forgive people (talk about all loving God) and He repents and regrets His actions and decisions. According to you, He died on the cross (who was controlling the universe while He was dead and who resurrected Him again?). He was tempted by Satan.

So you see, any sane person is in no need of such a god. Praise to be Allah Ta'ala, the Lord of the seven heavens and seven earths, He is clear from what you attribute to him.

This child molestation myth has been debunked here. Just to educate you, your lord jesus was born when his mother was 12 years old.

[Parture]

Why does the Koran have Jesus raised if he was such a bad guy?

Why does Jesus die on the cross? For our sins. When He is forsaken by God the Father, what God is doing is allowing all the sins of the world to come upon Jesus so that whosoever believes and receives Him shall be totally forgiven of every sin they ever committed.

The very punishment we all deserve Jesus takes upon Himself, even all the way down into Hades for 3 days, before He is resurrected.

Now that is a powerful God.

Jesus with the Father and the Spirit agreed in eternity past that Jesus would be the atonement for sin and the Spirit would indwell those who receive Jesus into their lives.

Why do prophets in the name of Jesus die as martyrs? Because it is an evil world. Satan is the god of this world. But you need not overly worry because their reward is coming, as those martyred in Christ have a reward coming.

Let these Christian songs melt your heart.

[Acid]

Your sheer ignorance is hillarious.

Qur'an does not say Jesus is a bad guy infact Qur'an honour , praise and testify the true message of Jesus Christ.

Have a look what Noble Qur'an says about Jesus ( peace be upon him ) :

Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)



Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who reject faith, to the Day of Resurrection: Then shall ye all return unto me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.
( سورة آل عمران , Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #55)


That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #157)


O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of Allah, and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His apostles. Say not "Trinity" : desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a Disposer of affairs.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)




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I have proved in many other posts that Jesus didnt die for your sin , your god will still take vengeance ! Refer to my other posts!

Good try anyway , you will learn truth slowly slowly.

[Parture]

If Jesus is not a bad guy then He must be God because He was making Himself equal with God and only God can do that.

Did Jesus say He was God? Jesus claimed equality with the God the Father.

"Jesus said to them, 'My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working.' For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God" (John 5:17-18).

[salman]

Originally Posted by Parture

Why does the Koran have Jesus raised if he was such a bad guy?

Don't you read what others say? Read this carefully, i'm even going to increase the font for you:

Originally Posted by salman

according to your Bible your lord jesus

The Lord of the seven heavens and sevens earths isn't like the god of the bible, nor Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) is like Jesus of the Bible.

Originally Posted by Parture

Why does Jesus die on the cross? For our sins. When He is forsaken by God the Father, what God is doing is allowing all the sins of the world to come upon Jesus so that whosoever believes and receives Him shall be totally forgiven of every sin they ever committed.

this is what you believe in, not rest of non-Christians. You've to prove that this actually happened using arguments outside of your Bible and blind faith! Why does a god or a man for that matter would die for my sins? This is completely unfair and unjust coming from all loving, fair, just and kind God! The solution is completely unpractical; anyone can do whatever he wants and then simply say "O Lord Jesus in the heavens take my sins and forgive me" and get away with it.

Originally Posted by Parture

The very punishment we all deserve Jesus takes upon Himself, even all the way down into Hades for 3 days, before He is resurrected.

Now that is a powerful God.

again, sorry, we don't believe in a god who takes people's sins upon him, gets brutely tortured and killed by his own creation. Do you even listen to yourself? How such a god is powerful who gets killed by his own creation?

Originally Posted by Parture

Jesus with the Father and the Spirit agreed in eternity past that Jesus would be the atonement for sin and the Spirit would indwell those who receive Jesus into their lives.

explain me this: how can Jesus (peace be upon him) be 100% created and 100% uncreated?

Originally Posted by Parture

Why do prophets in the name of Jesus die as martyrs? Because it is an evil world. Satan is the god of this world.

thank you for admitting that you believe in Satan; therefore, this implies your lord jesus was Satan. You need some help my friend!

Now, folks you see these kinds of Christians comes to us (Muslims) and whine that we disrespect Jesus and God but here this trinitarian is saying that God of this world is Satan which further implies that Jesus (peace be upon him) was that God.

[Parture]

I still have a problem with your beliefs, because of this point.

Did Jesus say He was God?

"Jesus said to them, 'My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I, too, am working.' For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God" (John 5:17-18).

When I do the math of it, anything equal with God is God.

If Jesus is not God then isn't it wrong to make yourself to be God?