> Examining claims against Zaid Hamid

[Assad]

I think you misunderstood again. Zaid hamid is not killed! In short, the lie against him is the accusation that this Zaid hamid is the same Zaid Zaman who was the khalifah of that false Prophet named Yusuf Kazzab.

In reality Zaid Hamid is not Zaid Zaman. That is what my article was about.

[Yanal]

O i apologize im not a good reader for long articles but next time i will try to be attentive inshAllah!

[siliconheart]

I believe...He is working in association with Pakistan agencies.. and may have been on duty trying to debunk Yusuf Kazzab as well, back in 1990s!!!!

But if he..openly says this...then.. the allegation of being an ISI agent..will..not help to improve his image in public..and he will be considered..just an agency man.


Because..the Audio Tape..makes him very suspicious.

Another possibility is of he being..really inspired by the man yusuf kazzab...but later made Tauba***

But in any case...There is no evidence for an existing Sufi Cult in Islamabad.

So right now atleast I believe that he is working for the Sake of Security of Pakistan and is a Self Less Man....he doesnt intend to be the leader..or asks for any position ...he is just trying to change the public opinion in a positive way!!

[Assad]

I agree with you siliconheart. Some people couldnt ague on his correct ideologies so they decided to start this silly personal attack in which they failed badly.

I have met him personally and he is a very good person..

[nahasq]

To Maqsad:

Salam Bro,

Can you please summrise it pointwise, what are your accusations for Mr Zaid Hamid. Make those write all. Ill try to answer.

Thanks.
Ma'Salam.

[nahasq]

"3b. The reason Zaid Hamid wants to divert attention from his LITTLE LIES in his vidoes to HIS FAKE DRAMA ABOUT THE CULT(that he created himself) is very simple. If all his viewers spend time looking for all the lies in his videos then more and more of them will figure out that there is something wrong with Zaid Hamid--that he is a CIA agent or some other kind of agent."



OK so Zaid hamid spread himself this sufi cult thing about himself, so that people may not pay attention to those little mistakes which he did in his videos showing him an agent.

But how did you or anyone got an idea to make him a CIA agent not ISI.

He does not want people to consider him as a secret intelligence agent. And the reason is quite clear, we all count them as corrupt, but fortunately some of them are not. So if he is also among a non-corrupt purely patriotic agents community, certainly he will try to hide it so that ppl may listen to what he wants ppl to know and understand about pakistan and upcoming events worldwide.

Does it make any sense to you Maqsad?

[nahasq]

YouTube- Zaid Hamid has NOTHING to do with Yusuf Kazab

YouTube- Zaid Hamid has NOTHING to do with Yusuf Kazab

Here is the audio link where zaid hamid is openly explaining the yusuf kazzab story.

The claims made earlier that zaid hamid is avoiding clarification is false.
He made is clear.

Ma'Salam.

[al-boriqee]

can someone inform a non indo-pak brother like myself, even though I love my biryaani, dhal puri, naan, and lamb karahi, as to what is going on, who is who and to do so in one single, even if LOOONG, post regarding the historical nature of what is going on and what is linked with what.

please try to explain it to me as closely as the modality of wikipedia.

asalamu alaikum

[Assad]

walikum salam,

bro. Al Boriqee, here is what the story is:

There is a Pakistani Defence and Strategy Analyst named Zaid Hamid, he openly speaks against the corrupt government, their links with anti Islamic parties, the anti-Islamic policies etc. He also made series of programs named "Economic Terrorism" which in detailed exposed the Zionist banking and economic systems and how they are controlling the world and how should we get rid of them.

He is an advocate of Shariah and Islamic finance and banking system, this is something you know, gives goosebumps to "open-minded" Muslims. Zaid Hamid also participated in the Jihad against Soviets

The best way to get to know this guy is to read his profile on his website, here:

BrassTacks Official Website


Now the OBJECTION AGAINST HIM is:

There was in 2005 a guy named YUSUF KAZZAB who claimed to be a prophet or Nur Rasool Allah and in a town of Pakistan. He was subsequently put to death.

Now, there is a small audio clip along with a newspaper cutting which are used as evidence to prove that Zaid Hamid is carrying the agenda of Yusuf Kazzab.

The Newspaper cutting simply says that during a large gathering yusuf kazzab appointed his khalifahs who ever like Abu Baker, Khaled bin Waled in their next life, so Zaid Hamid is one of them. The news paper cutting says that Zaid Hamid was appointed as the Khalifah of that liar.

The audio clip which is twisted shows the speech of yusuf kazzab when he says other stuff and than a guy comes whose name is Zaid Hamid and is the appointed First Khalifah.

So what they say is that the yusuf kazzabs Zaid Hamid is this BrassTacks Zaid Hamid.

Is this making sense?
Let me know If you are looking for more specific stuff about him.

[al-boriqee]

ah, okay

i did a little reading about yusif kazzab from wikipeida. But it seems that this court did not have proof that yusuf kazab actually claimed prophethood, rather it was all merely word of mouth.

however, the main issue I see is that because Zaid Hamid is speaking against the government, the government is tryin to find ways to undermine his kalaam, and by penning him with Yusuf kazab seems as one of the best ways to do so by using the another individual by the name of zaid hamid as proof of this zaid hamids kufr and therefore render him as a kaafir and legitimze any force of action against him.

makes sense.