Why weren't the scriptures of the nations before us preserved by Allah?

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Old 10-23-2008, 01:00 PM   #1
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Why weren't the scriptures of the nations before us preserved by Allah?



It was the duty of them nations to preserve their scriptures and to teach them to their people (i.e. the Bible mentions Jesus's call to the lost sheep [people] of Israel only), that was their responsibility which Allah had placed upon them. They never had to convey the message to the rest of humanity.

Allah preserved the Qur'an and the Sunnah for this nation, however because he has preserved the scripture for us, our duty is different - and that is to convey the message to the whole of mankind.



Therefore their duties were to preserve the scripture and teach it to their own people [of their nation/country/people etc.]

Our duty is to convey the preserved scripture to all of mankind, so Allah has made it easy for us by preserving the pure message uptill the final hour. Especially since there isn't a final Messenger after Allah's last Messenger, Muhammad (sal Allah alaihi wasalam.) If this scripture was to be distorted, no other messenger could come afterwards to confirm what was true or false, so Allah preserved it for us as a Mercy from Him.
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Some people will argue that if the Injeel [gospel] revealed to Jesus wasn't preserved by Allah, then what was really the point of it anyway?

It's well known that Salman Al Farsi [the persian] established the proof that it did indeed exist, and that he had learnt off someone who had studied and taught it [Musnad Ahmad, no. 23737.];

Did the Injeel (Gospel) revealed to Jesus - exist until the time of Muhammad (pbuh)?

Others may also argue why the true Injeel wasn't well known among the people [but a corrupted one instead], the answer to this is that Allah wanted to inform us that indeed there are 3 types of people - those who have the scripture and are guided, those who have the scripture and still have Allah's wrath upon them due to their disobedience to the scripture [i.e. the Jews], and those who went astray due to them not having the true guidance from the beginning, while believing they are upon the truth [i.e. the christians.]


The irony is that the exact same occured amongst many Muslim sects (like Allah's Messenger informed us that we [as an ummah] would follow the ways of the people before us), i.e. the Shi'a, and certain Sufi sects went astray due to their misguidance (i.e. Shi'a have a totally different religion because some do not believe the real Qur'an to be in its original form till today, they even have different collections of ahadith to us - they are of those who are 'astray', along with the sufis who followed them in this path - while being aware that the Qur'an and Sunnah are the truth, but still following another way to it by manipulating the texts to fit their desires [like the jews did] - causing Allah's wrath to fall upon them.)


Allah knows best.

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Asalam Alykom

bro Qatada, can you please fix the link on your second post? its for idawah hence not found in my browser

there is another post of yours I will be thankful if you do the same for the link there:
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sister, the links have been updated on both posts. The link in this thread was pointing to thread which you quoted in your post and the link in that thread was pointing to thread on Salman al-Farsi (radiAllahu anho) which akhee Qatada did post here. However, I do not think other than the poster people can find this out because they were idawah links. I was able to figure out by digging into old backups which I am glad that I kept them. Jazak Allah khayran for pointing it out! We do have setup automatic redirect but it may work sometime and sometime it may redirect to incorrect thread; so, it is better to update the links. If you ever come across any other idawah links, please notify me and I will update them, insha'Allah
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The new testament was not revealed to Jesus from god like the Quran was to mohhammod. The new testament is, in part, the story of what Jesus did, written by people who were hanging out with him. it is not the word of god. It is the word of men.
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