> What Is Eternal Life

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Eternal life is not just eternal blessings and a future with God and the Lamb at the center of the new city in the new earth (Rev. 21), but also more than that.

"This is eternal life, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom though didst send, even Jesus Christ" (John 17.3).

When Jesus asked, "Whom say ye that I am?" and "Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?" what was Peter's reply?

"Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."

Son of God and Son of Man connote terms to describe God, namely the 2nd Person in the Godhead. For the only begotten Son of God and Man is but One, One who is unique as God is unique.

This is revelation given to us by God. There is nothing that can stir it apart, because revelation of the Holy Spirit is unchallengeable. In other words, what's given, touching the very depths of your inner man, you just know it with every fibre of your being. May God give you the same revelation in your spirit.

Praise the Lord!

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this doesn't belong here so i'm simply going to move it.

[Assad]

In order to inherent Eternal Life you need to keep up the commandments which includes that God is ONE and not triune god.

Trinity is a concept borrowed from pagan religion from hinduism and roman paganism. Can you prove that trinity is NOT borrowed from pagan religions? Bible is not the prove as it was written decades after jesus death.

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There is no indication that the Trinity is borrowed from Hinduism or Pagan Rome, so the burden is on you to show it. The Bible did not start getting written decades after Jesus' death, but they began writing promptly. For it to be written after Jesus' death, He would had to have died when you said, "it was written decades after jesus death". I think you are contradicting yourself, because before you said Jesus did not die. The Bible was starting to be written soon after Jesus' death, but it was only completed (finalized) a few decades later with Paul's travels setting up the churches and of course, John's book of Revelation written in 95 AD as the 66th book of the Bible to complete it. This is unprecedented in antiquity that the completion of it is so soon after the events that took place. Whereas the Iliad was written over a 1000 years later and the Koran was written over 100 years later. The standard should increase.

In John 10:30-33, Jesus said,

"I and the Father are One [In Greek, "one" is neuter�"not one person, or one in thinking, but one in essence or nature].' The Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered, "I showed you many good works from the Father, for which of these are you stoning me?' The Jews answered Him, "For a good work we do not stone you, but for blasphemy; and because you, being a man, make yourself out to be God."

A lot of people think that the way they are going to have their sins forgiven and get into Heaven is to believe in Jesus and do something! They think by believing in Jesus and being baptized, or becoming a church member, or doing good deeds, or by the taking of the sacraments that their belief in Jesus plus their good works will get them into Heaven. The Bible utterly condemns such thinking:

"It is not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy Christ saved us" (Titus 3:5).
"By the works of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight" (Romans 3:20).

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You ignorant apostle of church! Read Hindus book , Bhagavat Gita and you will see that they believe in a 3 Godhead .

"Brahma, Vishnu and Siva constitue the trinity of Hinduism"

Read it yourself on the hindu website : www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/hindutrinity.asp

This has completely debunked your lie and exposed your ignorance and I have PROVED that trinity is borrowed from hinduism and other pagan religions. You are completely refuted.

John 10 :30-33 as you say are myth and they doesnt prove any trinity either.It just says that God is on the side of Jesus ( A prophet ) because God is always on the side of Prophets and not on pagan people and hostile men and enemies of God.

You will die in your sins and Jesus will rebuke you on Day of Judgement when there will be Saviour except Allah , There will be no shade excepts Allah and the Muslims shall be Dewellers of the Garden under which the rivers flows.

Repent and Allah will forgive you.

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Hinduism does not treat one uncreated Creator in 3 Persons. Hinduism only teaches that Brahma is uncreated. It does not say Vishnu and Siva are uncreated. Note the difference. I trust you are unable to show otherwise.

Hinduism and Islam share a common so-called creator that is singularly non-Trinitarian. Though there are many gods in Hinduism, Hinduists say they have only one uncreated creator which they call Brahma. Do you see how Islam and Hinduism are the same in that regard? unlike Christianity.

Have you prayed to God about how you reject the fall of man which in their sins they shall die in if they don't receive salvation, and yet you still speak of sins? This seems like a contradiction on your part. Sin leads to death and the second death which is Hell.

You have to be consistent. The Jews said "For a good work we do not stone you, but for blasphemy; and because you, being a man, make yourself out to be God." (John 10.33)

Jesus did not deny them that He was God in response.

Have you prayed to God if you are being genuinely honest about this discourse in God's Word?

Jesus said, "For unless you believe that I am He [God], you shall die in your sins" (John 8:24).

There is only one way to receive the forgiveness of your sins and the gift of eternal life. And this is only possible because Jesus is God. Jesus is not some superhuman and the only superhuman that ever lived, but He is God, the 2nd Person of the Trinity. How lonely Jesus be if He was the only superhuman that ever lived. But He is God, so He is not lonely in the relational Trinity.

Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).

"Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:12 ).

"For Christ died for your sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous, to bring you to God" (1 Peter 3:18).

"Now brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you which you received and on which you have taken your stand. By this gospel you are saved if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you, otherwise you have believed in vain. What I received I passed on to you as of first importance, that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the scriptures,...whether, then, it was I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believe" (1 Corinthians 15:1-3).

"As we have said before, and now I say again, if anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, let him be condemned to hell!" (Galatians 1:9).

[Assad]

Apostle for Church without knowledge , hilarious

Imaginable , you born again christian did no research and you lack basic knowledge as the readers can see that you clearly have no idea and you are totally wrong in your understanding about other religions and as well as yours.

Read this :

They are referred as Trimurtis. They are Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. Brahma is the creator, Vishnu is the preserver and Mahesh (Shiva) is the destroyer. Hindus believe in the existence of ONE God. All of the above are manifestations of the same God.


They believe that Bharama , Vishnu and Shiva are all 3in1 god like christian pagan trinity.

Again you are clearly refuted.

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You have misunderstood, for Hindus only consider Brahma as being uncreated, not the other gods. Whereas Christianity says the Father, Son and Spirit are One Being uncreated. Do you see the difference?

Hinduism and Islam are the same in the sense of their being non-Tritarian, that is a Tripersonal uncreated Creator.

Vishnu and Mahesh are created gods in Hinduism. Try to understand without assuming. Thus, the gods of Islam and Hinduism are impersonal whereas in Christianity God is so loving He enters into creation. Nothing is more personal than that.

Furthermore, only in Christianity does God enter His creation and walk among us. This is why God of the Bible is the One True God.

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Repeating something wouldnt substantiate your claim. I have written that in hinduism there only One God who is a triune god as in Christianity. All 3 gods of hinduism are uncreated and even in hinduism god enters in his creation and walks amongst them. That is only reason they say that in every human is god and same way in christianity human body is temple of god.

Hence hinduism is clearly same as christianity unlike Islam which prech to have faith in only One True Living Eternal God.

Also you are correct that only christianity teaches trinity concept which is borrowed from hinduism. NO OTHER PROPHET before Jesus taught this concept , hence trinity is a myth.

you are smoked.

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Originally Posted by Parture

Whereas Christianity says the Father, Son and Spirit are One Being uncreated. Do you see the difference?

if Jesus was uncreated, why was he born from a virgin? You're contradicting your own faith, Jesus is god and a man; so he is created and uncreated. Can you believe that a woman giving birth to her god who actually existed beginning? Talk about lacking common sense

Originally Posted by Parture

Furthermore, only in Christianity does God enter His creation and walk among us. This is why God of the Bible is the One True God.

this is because you people relay on blind faith and nonsense. Why does God need to walk on earth to forgive people? He says "Be and it is".