Is Christianity a true religion? Bassam Zawadi VS David Wood

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A debate between a Muslim apologist and a Christian apologist on the topic "Does the evidence show that Christianity is a true Religion?". The Muslim apologist was brother Bassam Zawadi (May Alla preserve him) and Christian apologist was David Wood. Brother Bassam did a fantastic job and it was a complete victory of Islam. The readers can see the debate and decide themselves. Also, don't forget to visit brother Bassam's website to read more Islamic responses to falsehood: Call to Monotheism


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Here're my comments on this debate; i added them in another forum where Brother Bassam shared this debate, let me just copy paste them here:

Jazak Allah khair bro, mashAllah, you did a fantastic job. I watched the whole debate over the period of the 3 days so I don't remember all the arguments you brought up in your opening statement in details but you brought up some very good points. Let me go through point by point

- You mentioned that atheists or other reject Islamic view on Jesus's (peace be upon him) crucifixion because they're biased. This didn't seem a good argument.

- You mentioned that he was going to be crucified and there's no way he could have been saved; thus, the historian conclude that he died on the cross. I say the original argument for this comes from the bible and then people go check out the historical evidence and then from facts here and there they conclude it. However, we need to see whether bible is authentic or not; how is the story being told. If the original story is wishy washy, what is the basis of historical evidences. Again, early evidences doesn't prove that they are authentic as you mentioned

-God tricking argument is completely garbage. How does he explain the miracles? Aren't those also tricks from God in making people believe in something supernatural events?

- very strong first rebuttal

- good point on justice in your first rebuttal

- good point on love and incarnation -- rationally speaking, the Eternal can never change; He is always what He is. He cannot be what He was never be. If He does, however, change then He must give up something to become something else as the law of opportunity cost says but because there is nothing beside Him He cannot give up that extra or acquire it.

- I think you covered his argument that Christianity has spread in your opening statement. I would say just because Christianity has spread doesn't prove that it is from God. How do you explain the spreading of Islam? According to his argument, Islam is also helped by God so it doesn't prove anything. Logically speaking, this is logical fallacy: appealing to belief.

- He said God knows everything so He should have known that if He tricks people to believe in something, they would start preaching. Anyone can counter this by saying, if God knew that we're going to sin why did He create us? I mean, honestly, these are ridiculously stupid philosophical questions.

- You brought up good points to counter rebuttal the authenticity of Sahih Bukhari and old historical document argument. He is so obsessed with historical documents argument that he doesn't realize his arguments are really silly. Again, he needs to understand that just because a book was compiled later doesn't mean the stories in the book are old as well. The isnaad for the ahadith in the ahadith books go back to the companions, who lived with him and they wrote it down. The original source of the stories are the companions who lived with Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) and passed down what he said. How early do you want damnit?

- You completely pawned him on understanding the bible verse from Unitarian or trinitarian perspective


Overall, well done, mashAllah and keep up the good work, insha'Allah.
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Shaykh ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullah) said: "What can my enemies possibly do to me? My paradise is in my heart; wherever I go it goes with me, inseparable from me. For me, prison is a place of (religious) retreat; execution is my opportunity for martyrdom; and exile from my town is but a chance to travel."

Imam Ibn al-Jawzi (rahimahullah) on the Ash'arites: "The heretics claim; i) there is no God in the Heavens, ii) neither is there Qur'an in the Mushaf, and iii) nor is there a Prophet in the grave;'your three shameful facets'"
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