This is a discussion on ماهي السلفية ؟ within the Arabic forums, part of the General Forums category; ما هي السلفية الإمام ابن عثيمين السلفيَّة هي اتباع منهج النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وأصحابه ؛ لأنهم سلفنا تقدموا علينا ، فاتِّباعهم هو السلفيَّة ...
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| slave of Allah Join Date: May 2008 Location: No where Posts: 156 Gender: ![]() Way of life: Muslim Thanks: 25
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| السلفيَّة هي اتباع منهج النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وأصحابه ؛ لأنهم سلفنا تقدموا علينا ، فاتِّباعهم هو السلفيَّة ، وأما اتِّخاذ السلفيَّة كمنهج خاص ينفرد به الإنسان ويضلل من خالفه من المسلمين ولو كانوا على حقٍّ : فلا شكَّ أن هذا خلاف السلفيَّة فالسلف كلهم يدْعون إلى الإسلام والالتئام حول سنَّة الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم ، ولا يضلِّلون مَن خالفهم عن تأويل ، اللهم إلا في العقائد ، فإنهم يرون من خالفهم فيها فهو ضال . لكن بعض من انتهج السلفيَّة في عصرنا هذا صار يضلِّل كل من خالفه ولو كان الحق معه ، واتَّخذها بعضهم منهجاً حزبيّاً كمنهج الأحزاب الأخرى التي تنتسب إلى الإسلام ، وهذا هو الذي يُنكَر ولا يُمكن إقراره ، ويقال : انظروا إلى مذهب السلف الصالح ماذا كانوا يفعلون في طريقتهم وفي سعة صدورهم في الخلاف الذي يسوغ فيه الاجتهاد ، حتى إنهم كانوا يختلفون في مسائل كبيرة ، في مسائل عقديَّة ، وفي مسائل علميَّة ، فتجد بعضَهم – مثلاً – يُنكر أن الرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم رأى ربَّه ، وبعضهم يقول بذلك ، وبعضهم يقول : إن الذي يُوزن يوم القيامة هي الأعمال ، وبعضهم يرى أن صحائف الأعمال هي التي تُوزن ، وتراهم – أيضاً – في مسائل الفقه يختلفون ، في النكاح ، في الفرائض ، في العِدَد ، في البيوع ، في غيرها ، ومع ذلك لا يُضلِّل بعضهم بعضاً . فالسلفيَّة بمعنى أن تكون حزباً خاصّاً له مميزاته ويُضلِّل أفراده سواهم : فهؤلاء ليسوا من السلفيَّة في شيء . وأما السلفيَّة التي هي اتباع منهج السلف عقيدةً ، وقولاً ، وعملاً ، واختلافاً ، واتفاقاً ، وتراحماً ، وتوادّاً ، كما قال النَّبي صلى الله عليه وسلم " مثل المؤمنين في توادهم وتراحمهم وتعاطفهم كمثَل الجسد الواحد ، إذا اشتكى منه عضوٌ تداعى له سائر الجسد بالحمَّى والسهر " ، فهذه هي السلفيَّة الحقَّة . " لقاءات الباب المفتوح " السؤال رقم 1322 .
__________________ "قُلْ إِنَّ صَلَاتِي وَنُسُكِي وَمَحْيَايَ وَمَمَاتِي لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ" "Verily, my prayer, my sacrifice, my living, and my dying are for Allâh, the Lord of the 'Alamîn" |
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| ..شكراً .. الله يعطيكِ العافيه والصحه والسعاادة داائمااا ..يااااارب |
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| jazakiAllah khair sis for sharing what I disagree with this Salafi/wahabi issue is when people get fanatic against the other and turn this to be a 7izbi war to prove who is the right and who is the wrong and forget the real meaning of following the pious salaf. May Allah keep us all in the right path of Quran and Sunnah
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والله يعافيك و يدخلك الفردوس الأعلى بلا حساب و جميع أمة محمد بن عبد الله صلى الله عليه و سلم أميييييييييييييين Quote:
the same is here wa Allahi, we suppose to be one body not separated and hating each other may Allah preserve you my sweet heart and accept your Du`aa Ameeen
__________________ "قُلْ إِنَّ صَلَاتِي وَنُسُكِي وَمَحْيَايَ وَمَمَاتِي لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ" "Verily, my prayer, my sacrifice, my living, and my dying are for Allâh, the Lord of the 'Alamîn" | ||
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| well, there is an aspect of the salafi manhaj that even Ibn Uthaymeen explained in many other places which is walaa wal baraa, and depending on the scenario, baraa, is mandatory upon a person. of course the level of baraai s not like that of the times of old, there is still a level of alligience and enmity that is integral for one's own deen. one of the most important aspects of the manbhaj is what Uthaymeen highlighted which is that what is the most important aspect of our way is that one must BE salafi and not necessarily call himself salafi. I mean, its fine and dandy to say your salafi, but what measures most, and what is seen, is your BEING salafi both baatin and dhaahir and not just dhaahir |
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| ![]() yes , you are right my respected brother and to make you understand what I am believing in and I am sure in shaa Allah that you are believing in the same thing ...read this, it is a part of Fatwa giving by Shaikh Muhammad Saalih Al Munajjid may Allah preserve him and you Ameen... Quote:
in shaa Allah you will understand now what I am upon ,may Allah reward you with Al Ferdaws with out being reckoning Ameen
__________________ "قُلْ إِنَّ صَلَاتِي وَنُسُكِي وَمَحْيَايَ وَمَمَاتِي لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ" "Verily, my prayer, my sacrifice, my living, and my dying are for Allâh, the Lord of the 'Alamîn" | |
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There are many people who are just boasting around with such titles and have nothing to do with the true way of al salaf as-Saleh. Unfortunetly I have seen many. May Allah save us
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| ![]() the main problem is that salafiyyah is misunderstood by those who call themselves salafis and those who generally oppose the way of the salaf. The people who call themselves salafis have taken the narrow understanding of salafiyyah and go around spreading this falsehood, confusing other people, speaking without knowledge and authority and it is hurting the da'wah salafiyyah. How many times we hear questions about following a math-hab and issues of al-wala al-bara from new Muslims or those who started to practice Islam again? How many times we see debates on fiqhi issues among laypeople? How many times we hear about shunning fullan people etc.? The list goes on and this is all because of shortcomings of these neo-salafi brothers and sisters. The people of knowledge and sunnah say that if a person focuses too much on aqeedah and having correct belief while he doesn't or hardly talks about actions (of the limbs) then this is a form of irjaa. On other hand, it is a sign of takfirsm if a person cares too much about others and the actions of the rulers while he ignores his own faraadh (فراض). Imaan is an action (action of the heart, action of the tongue and action of limbs), as Imam Bukhari rahimahullah describes it, and it is not enough just to belief and have correct aqeedah while put aside the actions. So, this is the trap of shaytan which some of our brothers have fallen into. Most of the laypeople among Muslims are already upon correct aqeedah, they may need little bit more guidance, but they require more naseeha and ilm about actions of the limbs. Sorry to go little bit off tangle and I don't want to confuse anyone. May Allah guide us all and keep us on haqq and let us die in that state, ameen. EDIT Can one of you sisters translate the following beautiful athaar of Imam Ahlus Sunnah Ahmad ibn Hanbal (rahimahullah), jazak Allah khayran? قَالَ إِمَامُ أَهْلِ السُّنَّةِ وَالْجَمَاعَةِ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ حَنْبَلٍ رَحِمَهُ اللهِ: أُصُولُ ٱلسُّنَّةِ عِنْدَنَا ٱلتَّمَسُّكُ بِمَا كَانَ عَلَيْهِ أَصْحَابُ رَسُولِ ٱللَّهِ صَلَّىٰ ٱللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَٱلْإِقْتِدَآءُ بِهِمْ، وَتَرْكُ ٱلْبِدَعِ، وَكُلُّ بِدْعَةٍ فَهِيَ ضَلَالَةٌ، وَتَرْكُ ٱلْخُصُومَاتِ، وَٱلْجُلُوسِ مَعَ أَصْحَابِ ٱلْأَهْوَآءِ، وَتَرْكُ ٱلْمِرَآءِ وَٱلْجِدَالِ وَٱلْخُصُومَاتِ فِي ٱلدِّينِ
__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind: Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] |
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| Exactly what you demonstrated salman is that the most important(well one of the most important) aspects of being salafi is being balanced that is why the ulema say that ahlusunnah(in this case salafis) are the ost balanced among the groups just as the whole of muslims are the balanced nation among others asalamau alaiku |
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| Wa Alikum Assalaam Wa Rahmatu Allahi Wa Barakatuh jazakum Allahu khairan my respected brother Salman , you are right may Allah reward you with the best in this Dunya and Akhirah Ameen here you are: Quote:
The Imaam of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, Ahmad Bin Hanbal (may Allah have mercy on him) said: the basic principles of the Sunnah which we have are: to stick to what the companions of Allah`s messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) were on ,and follow their example, and leave the innovations ,and every innovation is a misguidance ,and leave the quarreling and sitting with those who follow their whims, and leave the doubting ,arguing and quarreling in the deen...
__________________ "قُلْ إِنَّ صَلَاتِي وَنُسُكِي وَمَحْيَايَ وَمَمَاتِي لِلَّهِ رَبِّ الْعَالَمِينَ" "Verily, my prayer, my sacrifice, my living, and my dying are for Allâh, the Lord of the 'Alamîn" | |
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