> Aqeedah Ibn Abi Zayd al-Qayrawaani

[al-boriqee]

this is the best videos I have seen in explanation of his risaalah

#01 Aqeedah of Ibn Abi Zayd Al-Qayruwaani (1 of 2)|The FIKS part 1 (1 0f 2)

#1 Aqeedah of Ibn Abi Zayd Al-Qayruwaani (2 of 2)|The FIKS part 1 (2 of 2)

#2 Aqeedah of Ibn Abi Zayd Al-Qayruwaani (Allah is The First & The Last)|The FIKS part 2

I strongly urge all members on the forum to review this series as it progresses in order to understand the founding of this site overall in terms of articulating the Islamic creed

[salman]

Part 3: #3 Aqeedah of Ibn Abi Zayd Al-Qayruwaani (ALLAH is with us by His Knowledge)|The FIKS

[Ibn Ilyas]

First of all jazakallahu khayran for the videos it has been very beneficial. I have one question regarding this ayah

Allah says in soorah al-Imran verse 103

(And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah, and be not divided among yourselves)

Is it alright to say that the muslims can only unite by having a correct Aqeedah... and that is the only we can hold on to the rope of Allah.



Or do we simply just unite, no matter how ones Aqeedah is?


Also why can't we have live lectures/session held by Al-Boriqee, Salman or something like that insha'allah.

[salman]

Originally Posted by Ibn Ilyas

Originally Posted by Ibn Ilyas

Allah says in soorah al-Imran verse 103

(And hold fast, all of you together, to the Rope of Allah, and be not divided among yourselves)

Is it alright to say that the muslims can only unite by having a correct Aqeedah... and that is the only we can hold on to the rope of Allah.

Or do we simply just unite, no matter how ones Aqeedah is?

akhee, the issue is deep but my two cents. The Messenger of Allah (sal-allahu alahyi wa sallam) said that my ummah will not unite upon error. Thus, the full and complete unity can be achieved only by following haqq and haqq does not just end with having correct aqeedah even though that is the first step. Following haqq means that our whole life and mentality is by Islam and this should not make us arrogant and create divisions and shun our brothers and sisters in Islam. Many times people who have incorrect aqeedah are simply ignorant, or grew up in innovative environment and among the people of innovation, or they are influenced by their thoughts. Hence, we should be gentle with them, make dua'a for them and not forget our own position (we are humans too and it was blessing of Allah that He guided us). If they remain arrogant and persistent then we can be harsh or leave them be and make dua'a for them.

Secondly, as we understand from our history and saying of the scholars, there is nothing wrong in working together with people of bida' for mutual cases (i.e., fighting against the kuffaar).

Unity does not mean that we should remain quite about the mistakes and errors of others. The crux of the matter is that nothing should come in our way when following haqq and speaking about it because our love is for Allah and our hate is for Allah. However, at same time proper approach of da'wah is required which depends on circumstance, individuals and severity of their error.

Allahu A'lam

Originally Posted by Ibn Ilyas

Also why can't we have live lectures/session held by Al-Boriqee, Salman or something like that insha'allah.

Allhamdulillah, akhee al-kareem, I am not qualified to do these sorts of lectures. Islamic lectures require knowledge and I am far from it: I am an average layman like yourself.

[salman]

Part 4:

04 AQEEDAH OF IBN ABI ZAYD AL-QAYRUWAANI (Q & A SESSION)

[Aayah]

I was searching about that Aqeedah today and found this good link consisting of 11 parts. You may find it useful:
شرح عقيدة ابن أبي زيد القيرواني - إنجليزي

If someone would like to watch the video lessons in Arabic I am downloading now from this link where the lessons are taken from the lessons that Al Majid Al-3elmiyah channel offer "I tried to translate the titles roughly, I hope its an accurate translation" :

"Introduction" الدرس (1) شرح المقدمة

"the Danger of Ta'weel and the concept of Maheeyah" الدرس (2) مفهوم الماهية وخطورة التأويل

"Proving the Kursi and and the Throne, and talking about knowing about his awareness of his slaves"الدرس (3) إثبات الكرسي والعرش والتكلم على الإحاطة بعباده

"The names of Allah and his attributes" الدرس (4) أسماء الله الحسنى وصفاته

"The Quran is the word of Allah, a truth from him that started from him and will be back to him" الدرس (5) القرآن كلام الله حقيقة منه بدأ وإليه يعود

"Believing in Qadar" الدرس (6) الاعتقاد بالقدر

"Believing in the prophets" الدرس (7) الإيمان بالرسل

"Proving the last hour and the resurrection and jazaa" الدرس (8) إثبات الساعة و البعث والجزاء

"The fairness of Allah-proving the Shafa'3ah" الدرس (9) عدل الله و فضله - إثبات الشفاعة

"The doer of the major sin" الدرس (10) مرتكب الكبيرة

"Believing in Jannah, Hellfire, and Barzakh" الدرس (11) الاعتقاد في الجنة والنار والبرزخ

"The final day and judging and Shafa'3ah that will be then" الدرس (12) يوم القيامة وما فيه من حساب وشفاعة

"The truth of Eman, the Muslim doesn't become Kafir without Yaqeen" الدرس (13) حقيقة الإيمان , المسلم لا يكفر إلا بيقين

"Believe in the Angels, the love of Sahabah and admit their superiority " الدرس (14) الإيمان بالملائكة , حب الصحابة واعتقاد فضلهم

"Obeying the wali 'the ruler'" الدرس (15) طاعة أولي الأمر

source: Muslm.Net

[Aayah]

^ sorry brother for the messy post. I saw you edited it and make it more tidy. I was in rush when I posted the links and that was in a very late hour last night that's why they seemed to be half-hearted posted !!

[al-boriqee]

Originally Posted by Ibn Ilyas

Is it alright to say that the muslims can only unite by having a correct Aqeedah... and that is the only we can hold on to the rope of Allah.



Or do we simply just unite, no matter how ones Aqeedah is?

oh boy

that's a can that contains tons of stuff

when I get a chance I'll try to get to it inshallah

Also why can't we have live lectures/session held by Al-Boriqee, Salman or something like that insha'allah.

I'm not qualified to make claims. I was however thinking about doing something oN murji thought and correlate that with todays modern liberal thought process but I have to prepare for it inshallah and I was thinking to do it because it is extremely needed for todays muslims.

Asalamu alaikum

[Ibn Ilyas]

Jazakallahu khayran brothers and alhamdulillah I find your posts to be balanced and a lot of truth can be recognised from your posts akhee Boriqee and Salman, as we can find in one of the sayings of the salaf.


It is reported that a man came to ‘Abdullâh b. Mas’ûd – Allâh be pleased with him – and asked, “Teach me some comprehensive and beneficial words.” He replied, “Worship Allâh and do not associate any partners with Him, and be with the Qur’ân wherever it is. And whoever comes to you with some truth – whether he is young or old, even if he is hated by you – then accept [that truth]. And whoever comes lying to you – even if he is beloved and close – then reject it from him.”
Abû Bakr Al-Kharâ`itî, Masâwî Al-Akhlâq wa Madhmûmihâ p72.

Thus my suggestions.

I have another question... Can I stand behind an Imam who has a different Aqeedah and if not how do I find out his Aqeedah without getting into a beef with him, and the other one who leads the prayers has a chain necklace and leads people in prayer wearing it (he also has a big beard...) This is all at work btw.


Edit: I have been lagging behind we are at part 4 already subhanallah, I'll try catch up this weekend. Akhee Salman I agree with you, When I first started practicing again, may Allah swt forgive me for have stopped practicing in the first place, I got into with people who were into dissing, bojcotting, slandering and backbiting and being extremely harsh. Wallahi I ended up hating people and the hate extended even to my brothers who were upon the correct Aqeedah and Minhaj, subhanallah, anyways jazakallahu khayran akhee.

And Eid Al-Mubarak brothers and sisters

Wassalam

[salman]

^

wa iyaak akhee al-kareem; everything good is from Allah. Eid mubarak to you as well akhee.

Jazak Allah khayr for sharing that athar of the Salaf and indeed the Imams put it very profoundly. Important thing to remember akhee is to avoid yourself to associate with a group or parties because such things make us arrogant and creates ta'ssub (partisanship). At the end of the day, what we are seeking is haqq and that is something we should be worried about.

Watch the 4th part: Ustad brought up some important points in first half of the video.

Originally Posted by Ibn Ilyas

I have another question... Can I stand behind an Imam who has a different Aqeedah and if not how do I find out his Aqeedah without getting into a beef with him, and the other one who leads the prayers has a chain necklace and leads people in prayer wearing it (he also has a big beard...) This is all at work btw.

As long as the Imam is Muslim, we can pray behind him even if he has some errors in his aqeedah or he is associated with a group of people who have errors in aqeedah. As long as it is generally known that the person is a Muslim, there is nothing wrong in praying behind him, insha'Allah and Allah knows best. Also have a look at Praying behind someone who commits major shirk. salaah valid?

As far your other question about wearing chain, Allahu A'lam. I do not know

If we do find out the Imam has some problems in aqeedah or his actions do not suite the adab of an Imam or something like that then if we get the opporunity then we approach him in a good manner and advise him kindly without the attitude of "refuting" and "off the manhaj". We all make mistakes, don't we? So let us not be so arrogant & sanctimonious and forget how we were in the past.

Generally speaking akhee, if the Imam is not a sufi he won't be even aware of advance topics of aqeedah and differences therein. Even not every sufi Imam is hardcore bidti and mushrik. Most of the awam, even if they are associated with a group of bidah, are upon the correct aqeedah because their fitrah is not corrupted and they follow and believe in whatever the Qur'an and the sunnah says. That is why ulama advise the new students and others to not to mention advance aqeedah topics to awam because they may become confused or due to their association with people of bid'ah they may end up adopting the corrupt aqeedah. You will notice that lots of our salafis brothers on forums, who read few articles and stuff, will go around "forcing" it on other awam and that makes the matter worse. Astegfirullah, even I ended up doing this during my time of jahliyyah.

Allahu A'lam

We need to remind each other of these things and be reminded and not get carried away. May Allah soften our hearts toward each other, keep us all on haqq and write us among the people of Jannat al-Firdows, ameen

PS: have you heard Ustad Abu Taubah's Juma'ah khutbah on "The Islamic personality"? It is a very very good one and If you have not heard yet then I would strongly advice you to listen to it when you get a chance, insha'Allah