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| ![]() :Discussing the characteristics, the belief, and the 'aqeedah of the saved sect: Ahle Sunnah wal Jama'h/Ahle al-Hadith, the ashab al-Hadith (the people of hadith). Know by Allah, Mubarak (congratulation) to you if you belong to Ahle Sunnah wal Jama'h or you're Ahle al-Hadith because they adhere to the 'aqeedah of the Salaf (May Allah be pleased with them - explained here) and refer to the Qur'an and Sahih Sunnah. May Allah Ta'ala strengthen us to keep striving on the path of the saved sect, ameen. wallahu a'lam (and Allah knows best) Quote:
__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind:Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] Ahl al-Hadith are the followers of the Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam). Even if they did not accompany him, (it is as if) they witnessed his every breath. | |
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| ![]() Let's read another informative and beneficial article about the saved sect, the Ahle Sunnah wal Jama'h/Ahle al-Hadith. Quote:
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__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind:Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] Ahl al-Hadith are the followers of the Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam). Even if they did not accompany him, (it is as if) they witnessed his every breath. | ||
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| ![]() Characteristics of the saved group Question: What are the most prominent characteristics of the saved group? If a person is lacking in any of these characteristics does that mean that he is not one of the saved group? Answer: Praise be to Allah. The most prominent characteristic of the saved group is adherence to the way of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) in 'aqeedah (belief), 'ibaadah (worship), manners and attitude, and dealings with others. The saved group has distinct characteristics in these four areas. In matters of 'aqeedah you will find that they adhere to that which is indicated by the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), i.e., absolute Oneness (Tawheed) of the Divinity and Lordship of Allah, and of His Names and Attributes. In matters of worship, you will find that this group is distinguished by its total adherence to and application of that which the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) used to do with regard to different kinds of acts of worship, how they are done, to what extent, where and when, and for what reasons. You will not find them introducing innovations into the religion of Allah, rather they show the utmost respect towards Allah and His Messenger, so they do not put themselves forward before Allah and His Messenger (cf. al-Hujuraat 49:1) by suggesting any innovated act of worship for which He has not granted permission. In matters of manners and attitude, you will also find that they differ from others by virtue of their good attitudes such as wishing the Muslims well, being content, having a cheerful countenance, speaking well, being generous, being courageous, and other noble and good characteristics. In matters of dealings with others, you will find that they deal with others in an open and sincere manner. They are the ones to whom the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) referred when he said: "The two parties (to a transaction) have the choice (of proceeding with the transaction or cancelling it) until they separate. If they are sincere and open, their transaction will be blessed for them, and if they are lying or deceitful, the blessing will be lost." If a person is lacking in any of these characteristics, then does not mean that he is not one of the saved group, but for all, there will be degrees according to that which they did (cf. al-Ahqaaf 46:19). Falling short in matters of Tawheed may put a person outside the saved group, such as lacking in ikhlaas (sincerity or purity of intention). The same applies to bid'ah, as a person may do acts of bid'ah which put him outside the saved group. In matters of morals and dealings with others, defects in such matters do not put a person outside this group, although they may reduce him in status. We need to look in more detail at the matter of attitude and manners. One of the most important matters of attitude and manners is unity and uniting upon the truth. This is what Allah urges us to do in the aayah (interpretation of the meaning): "He (Allah) has ordained for you the same religion (Islamic Monotheism) which He ordained for Nooh (Noah), and that which We have revealed to you (O Muhammad), and that which We ordained for Ibraaheem (Abraham), Moosa (Moses) and 'Eesa (Jesus) saying you should establish religion (i.e. to do what it orders you to do practically) and make no divisions in it (religion) (i.e. various sects in religion)" [al-Shoora 42:13] Allah tells us that those who divide their religion and break up into sects, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) has nothing to do with them. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): "Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad) have no concern in them in the least" [al-An'aam 6:159] Unity and harmony are among the most prominent characteristics of the saved sect Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah. If any dispute arises among them, stemming from ijtihaad in matters where ijtihaad is permitted they do not bear ill-will, enmity or grudges against one another. Rather they regard one another as brothers even though these differences arise between them. One of them will pray behind another even if he thinks that he does not have wudoo' whilst the imaam thinks that he does have wudoo'. For example, one of them may pray behind another who has eaten camel meat, and this imaam thinks that this does not break wudoo' whereas the person praying behind him thinks that it does break wudoo'. So he believes that his prayer behind this imaam is valid, but if he himself were to pray in that state on his own he would think that his prayer is not valid. All this is because they believe that differences which arise from ijtihaad in cases where ijtihaad is allowed, are not really differences, because each of them has followed evidence (daleel) as he is obliged to do, and which should not be ignored. So they believe that if their brother differs from them with regard to some action because he is following the evidence (daleel), then in effect he is agreeing with them, because they advocate following the evidence wherever it is. So although he differs from them, he is still following evidence from the Book of Allah or the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). The scholars are not unaware of the differences of this nature that arose among the Sahaabah even during the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), but he did not rebuke them. When he (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) came back from the campaign of al-Ahzaab, and Jibreel came to him and told him to go out to Bani Qurayzah, who had broken the treaty, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) told his companions, "None of you should pray 'Asr until he reaches Bani Qurayzah." They set out from Madeenah to Bani Qurayzah, and they were worried about missing the 'Asr prayer. Some of them delayed the 'Asr prayer until they reached Bani Qurayzah, and they prayed it after the time for the prayer had passed, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had said, "None of you should pray 'Asr until he reaches Bani Qurayzah." Others prayed 'Asr on time, saying that all the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) had meant was that they should hasten to go out (to Bani Qurayzah); he did not mean that they should delay the prayer. These are the ones who were correct, but the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) did not rebuke either of the two groups, and neither expressed enmity towards the other. The Muslims who claim to follow the Sunnah should be one ummah and not divide into groups, fighting one another verbally and arguing and hating one another for a matter in which it is allowed to have different opinions. There is no need to mention every group by name; the smart person will understand what I mean. I think that Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah should unite even though they differ in the ways in which they understand those texts which may be interpreted in different ways. That is a matter in which there is room for differences, may Allah be praised. What matters is harmony and unity. No doubt the enemies of Islam want the Muslims to be divided, whether they are enemies who express their enmity openly or they are enemies who make an outward display of friendliness towards Muslims and Islam, but that is not real. We must be distinguished by this characteristic which is the characteristic of the saved group, i.e., being united. Source: Characteristics of the saved group
__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind:Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] Ahl al-Hadith are the followers of the Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam). Even if they did not accompany him, (it is as if) they witnessed his every breath. |
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| ![]() Characteristics of the Victorious Group: Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah Question: This question abouh fiqh : harakah. Can you tell me the characteristic of jamaah Islam that we must follow? Answer: Praise be to Allah. It is the Muslim's duty to follow the truth and to join the victorious group, the people of Sunnah and Jamaa'ah (Ahl al-Sunnah wa'l-Jamaa'ah) who are followers of the pious predecessors (al-salaf al-saalih), loving them for the sake of Allah whether they are in his own country or elsewhere, and cooperating with them in righteousness. The attributes of the victorious group are related in a number of saheeh ahaadeeth, for example: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "My ummah is an ummah which carries out the commands of Allah; those who let them down or differ from them do not harm them and they will keep adhering to this path until the Day of Judgement." Mu'aawiyah and 'Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allah be pleased with them) reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: 'A group of my ummah will continue victoriously adhering to the truth until the Last Hour begins.'" Al-Mugheerah ibn Shu'bah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) say: "Some people of my ummah will remain victorious over the people until the decree of Allah reaches them." 'Imraan ibn Husayn (may Allah be pleased with him) said that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "A group of my ummah will continue fighting for the truth, and will prevail over those who oppose them, until the last of them will kill al-Maseekh al-Dajjaal (the Liar or Anti-Christ)." From these ahaadeeth we may understand the following: (1) The Prophet's words "A group of my ummah will continue . . ." indicate that this is a section of the ummah, not the entire ummah. This also indicates that there will be other groups and sects. (2) His words "those who oppose them will not harm them" indicate that there will be other groups who oppose the victorious group in the way they practice the religion. This also concurs with the hadeeth which describes the ummah being divided into seventy-two groups or sects who oppose the one group that is following the truth. (3) Both ahaadeeth offer glad tidings to the people who are following the truth. The hadeeth that speaks of the victorious group speaks of their victory in this world. (4) The words "until the decree of Allah reaches them" refer to the wind or breeze that will come and take the soul of every believing man and woman. This does not contradict the hadeeth "A group of my ummah will remain victoriously supporting the truth until the Day of Resurrection," because that hadeeth means that they will continue to follow the truth until that gentle breeze takes their souls just before the Day of Resurrection, when many other Signs of the Last Hour have already manifested themselves. The characteristics of the victorious group From the ahaadeeth quoted above, and other reports, we can derive the following characteristics of the victorious group: (1) They follow the truth. They are described variously as "following the truth," "following the commandments of Allah," "following the true religion," etc. All of these phrases indicate that they are adhering to the true religion with which Muhammad (peace be upon him) was sent. (2) They obey the commandments of Allah, which means: (a) They are distinguished from the rest of mankind by carrying the banner of Da'wah towards Allah. (b) They undertake the mission of enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil. (3) They will be victorious until the Last Hour. The ahaadeeth say that "they will be victorious until the decree of Allah comes," "they victoriously support the truth," or "they will be victorious over those who oppose them." This victory includes: Being open and not hiding: they are well-known and prominent and have the upper hand. Adherence to true religion, righteousness, following Allah's commands and fighting against His enemies in jihaad Victory by defeating others (4) They are patient and resist others with patience. Abu Tha'labah al-Khashani (may Allah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "After you there will come days of patience, in which the patience required will be like having to hold a burning coal in one's hand." Who are the people of the victorious sect? Al-Bukhaari said: "They are the people of knowledge (the scholars)." Many scholars said that the victorious group is the scholars of hadeeth. Al-Nawawi said: "It is possible that this group is scattered among all types of believers. Some may be brave fighters, or fuqahaa', or scholars of hadeeth, or ascetics, or people who enjoin good and forbid evil, and other types of good people." Al-Nawawi also said: "It could be a group of different types of believers, including those who are brave and skilled in warfare, faqeehs, scholars of hadeeth, Qur'anic commentators (mufassireen), those who enjoin good and forbid evil, ascetics and devoted worshippers." Ibn Hajar, may Allah have mercy on him, explained the matter as follows: "They do not have to all be in one city; they could be gathered in one country or dispersed across the world. They may be gathered in one city or in a part of it. It is possible that one group may exist, then disappear, then be replaced by another group, and so on, until the Day of Judgement, when all will disappear except for one group in one city, who will disappear when the breeze decreed by Allah comes." The scholars' discussion of this group does not specify one type of people, or one city or country, except for the last group, which will be in al-Shaam (the territory comprising modern-day Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine) and will fight the Dajjaal, as the Prophet (peace be upon him) said. No doubt those who are involved with the sciences of sharee'ah 'aqeedah, fiqh, hadeeth and tafseer, studying and teaching are the people who are most qualified to be called the Victorious Group, and they should be at the forefront of da'wah and jihaad, and enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil, and refuting the people of bid'ah, all of which must be accompanied with sound knowledge based on the Wahy (Revelation). We ask Allah to make us among them. May Allah bless our Prophet Muhammad. Source: Characteristics of the Victorious Group
__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind:Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] Ahl al-Hadith are the followers of the Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam). Even if they did not accompany him, (it is as if) they witnessed his every breath. |
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| Salam I just read about this in an islamonline.net article, and here's the thing I found that I didnt quite get: Quote:
1 - Do angels have free will? How can they intercede against these people? 2 - Will those muslims from amongst the 72 'not saved' sects ever escape hell? Salam (I thought it wouldnt make sense to make a new thread about this when there is one right here.)
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| ![]() That is a good question but wont comment as I dont think I have knowledge/understanding for that.The commentary from IslamOnline.net seems far fetched though. However you said: Quote:
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:I've to agree akhee, the wording seems to be unclear. Quote:
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In regard to jahanam (hell fire), there is some dispute among scholars of Ahlus Sunnah and it is bit deep; so not every layman need to worry about it. Allahu A'lam
__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind:Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] Ahl al-Hadith are the followers of the Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam). Even if they did not accompany him, (it is as if) they witnessed his every breath. | |||
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| Which Sects or Group to follow Praise be to Allaah.Source
__________________ Fi Amanillah Wa As-Salamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu The Prophet sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam said: "The Muslim is a unique Ummah among the whole of mankind:Their Land is ONE, their War is ONE, their Peace is ONE, Their Honour is ONE and their Trust is ONE." [Relayed by Imam of Ahlus Sunnah - Ahmad ibn Hanbal - rahimahullah] Ahl al-Hadith are the followers of the Prophet (sal-allahu 'alayhi wa salam). Even if they did not accompany him, (it is as if) they witnessed his every breath. |
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