This is a discussion on Punishment of Stoning within the Anti-Islamic Refutations forums, part of the iDawah Refutations Discussion category; Asalamu alaikum wr wb. Punishment of Stoning http://www.islamicboard.com/591159-post9.html The punishment of stoning is the hadd punishment for the married adulterer, which essentially entails that it ...
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| Asalamu alaikum wr wb. Punishment of Stoning http://www.islamicboard.com/591159-post9.html The punishment of stoning is the hadd punishment for the married adulterer, which essentially entails that it functions exclusively as a deterrent. Here's why. To apply this punishment you need four witnesses to the actual act of penetration who observed it from four different angles and if there is even the slightest contradiction in the most minute details of their testimony, they are punished with eighty lashes for false accusation of adultery. Thus, the implementation of the hadd punishment for zina is a practical impossibility. As the fatwâ committee under the supervision of Shaykh 'Abdul-Wahâb At-Turaryrî notes: It is not enough for four people to show up at court and give testimony. The witnesses and their backgrounds have to be carefully scrutinized by the courts to determine their trustworthiness and honesty. They have to be able to demonstrate that they saw the crime. It is not easy to explain how one was able to witness such an act without being guilty of any wrongdoing oneself. The witnesses have to see actual sexual penetration. This is not an easy thing to explain.It is worth noting that in the 1400 years of Islamic history, these stringent conditions have never been met even once. And due to the deterrent effect, sexual immorality is suffocated and eradicated in an Islamic society. In spite of all this, if the impossibility became reality and the punishment were to be carried out, then how would it be done? For the person who is convicted of such a heinous licentious act they would be placed in a pit and pelted to death while covered by a cloth so that their 'awrah is not exposed. If it is by confession and not conviction, they would have the opportunity to retract their confession at any point in time and so they would not be placed in a pit. No one is allowed to curse the person who undergoes this or express pleasure. For the reasons outlined above, it is evident that whatever movie you have seen could by no stretch of the imagination be construed as Islamic, as this punishment is a practical impossibility and even then would never occur in the manner described. |
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| The 4 witnesses have to actually see the act of intercourse take place: Again, the way a person can be stoned is; 1) If there are 4 trustworthy witnesses who testify to the fact that they saw the actual penetration occur. 2) The person him/herself testifies to their ownself. However, if there aren't 4 witnesses, and the person repents while keeping it between him/herself and Allah, then Allah is still willing to forgive them. That's why, if you read the hadith which you quoted - it was the same man which Allah's Messenger turned away from 3 or 4 times. Then when he persisted and made his claim public, then he was stoned for that, and Allah forgave him insha Allah. If someone repents or recieves the hadd prescribed punishment - they are forgiven for that crime in the hereafter. And Allah knows best. |
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| Some people misinterpret this verse, so here's some tafsir of it; [وَلاَ تَأْخُذْكُمْ بِهِمَا رَأْفَةٌ فِى دِينِ اللَّهِ] |
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