> NASA - The Moon WAS Split

[IbnAbdulHakim]

The moon Was SPLIT

Sahih Bukhari

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 208:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The people of Mecca asked Allah's Apostle to show them a miracle. So he showed them the moon split in two halves between which they saw the Hiram' mountain.

From NASA: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap021029.html



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2002 October 29




A Lunar Rille

Credit: Apollo 10, NASA
Explanation: What could cause a long indentation on the Moon? First discovered over 200 years ago with a small telescope, rilles (rhymes with pills) appear all over the Moon. Three types of rilles are now recognized: sinuous rilles, which have many meandering curves, arcuate rilles which form sweeping arcs, and straight rilles, like Ariadaeus Rille pictured above. Long rilles such as Ariadaeus Rille extend for hundreds of kilometers. Sinuous rilles are now thought to be remnants of ancient lava flows, but the origins of arcuate and linear rilles are still a topic of research. The above linear rille was photographed by the Apollo 10 crew in 1969 during their historic approach to only 14-kilometers above the lunar surface. Two months later, Apollo 11, incorporating much knowledge gained from Apollo 10, landed on the Moon.
Tomorrow's picture: Rock & Sky

[IbnAbdulHakim]

In 2002 during the Islamic month of Ramadan on CNN, Americas number one news station, there was a panel composed of four people. 1) Jew 2) Christian 3) Muslim 4) NASA representative. On such month it was discovered by NASA that the MOON seemed as though it was two pieces and it was suggested that if it was so that man could have not done it but God Himself. The question was posed to all members if there was anything in their scripture to support the idea that the MOON could have been two pieces. No one but the Muslim was able to give an account on the matter. So, whoever does not accept the idea that The Moon was two pieces once does not accept CNN, NASA, or even GOD.

[IbnAbdulHakim]

RELEASE: 99-18AR
LUNAR DATA SUPPORT IDEA THAT COLLISION SPLIT EARTH, MOON



Analysis of data from NASA's Lunar Prospector spacecraft has confirmed that the Moon has a small core, supporting the theory that the bulk of the Moon was ripped away from the early Earth when an object the size of Mars collided with the Earth.

Scientists presented this result and other findings today in a series of papers at the 30th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Houston, TX. Their data show that the lunar core contains less than four percent of the Moon's total mass, with the probable value being two percent or slightly less. This is very small when compared with the Earth, whose iron core contains approximately 30 percent of the planet's mass.
"This is a critical finding in helping scientists determine how the Earth and Moon formed," said Dr. Alan Binder of the Lunar Research Institute, Tucson, AZ, principal investigator for Lunar Prospector.

Similarities in the mineral composition of the Earth and the Moon indicate that they share a common origin. However, if they had simply formed from the same cloud of rocks and dust, the Moon would have a core similar in proportion to the Earth's. A third theory suggests that the Moon was captured fully intact by the Earth's gravity.

Based on information first gathered during the Apollo era, scientists suggested that the Moon was formed when a Mars-sized body hit the Earth during its earliest history. "This impact occurred after the Earth's iron core had formed, ejecting rocky, iron-poor material from the outer shell into orbit," Binder explained. "It was this material that collected to form the Moon.
"Further analysis of Lunar Prospector data to refine the exact size of the lunar core and the amounts of elements like gold, platinum and iridium in lunar rocks -- all of which are concentrated with metallic iron -- is required," Binder added. "This will do much to pin down for good if the 'giant impact' model of the formation of the Moon is correct, or if the Moon formed in a different manner."

The current data come from gravity measurements conducted by Dr. Alex Konopliv of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA. His results indicate that the Moon's core radius is between 140 and 280 miles (220 and 450 kilometers). This result is consistent with independent magnetic data, evaluated by Dr. Lon Hood of the University of Arizona, Tucson, which suggest that the core radius is between 180 and 260 miles (300 and 425 km).

In other results from Lunar Prospector, Dr. Robert Lin of the University of California at Berkeley, Dr. Mario Acuna of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, MD, and Hood also found that a broad section of the southern far-side of the Moon has large localized magnetic fields in its crust. These fields occur opposite the large Crisium, Serenitatis and Imbrium basins -- three of the "seas" that cover much of the Moon's near side. This result supports earlier evidence linking strong magnetized concentrations on one side of the Moon with young, large impact basins on the other side.

Results of efforts to map the composition of the lunar crust have surpassed the expectations of the spectrometer team, led by Dr. William Feldman of the Department of Energy's Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. Data obtained are so good that the distribution of thorium has been mapped with a resolution of 36 miles (60 kilometers). At this amount of detail, scientists can detect individual deposits rich in thorium and related elements. Their current observations suggest that thorium was excavated by impacts of asteroids and comets, and then distributed around craters, rather than being deposited by volcanic activity.

Lunar Prospector conducted its primary mapping mission at an altitude of 63 miles (100 kilometers) for almost one year after its arrival in lunar orbit on Jan. 11, 1998. In December and January, the spacecraft's altitude was lowered to approximately 15 miles by 23 miles (24 kilometers by 37 kilometers). Analyses of data from the lower-altitude observations are expected to further improve scientific understanding of the origin, evolution and physical resources of the Moon.
The $63 million mission is managed by NASA's Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA, and was developed under NASA's Discovery Program of lower-cost, highly focused small scientific spacecraft.

Further information about Lunar Prospector, its science data return, and
relevant charts and graphics can be found on the project website at:
http://lunar.arc.nasa.gov

[PK_Aali]

On such month it was discovered by NASA that the MOON seemed as though it was two pieces and it was suggested that if it was so that man could have not done it but God Himself.

Subhan Allah!!

And He shows you His Signs; then which of God's Signs will you deny?
(Qur'an, 40:81)

[3abdurrahman]

Assalam alaikum

Mashaa' Allah

I came across a person who wanted to make fun of muslims who believe this and see what he said at a Kufr forum

Recently I discovered the Muslims believe their prophet, Muhhamed, split the moon in half as a miracle. I instantly thought I should debunk this, so I did some Googling around and found that it almost certainly never was split, that if it was split that we would all freeze to death, etc.

I came across this: NASA - The Moon WAS Split

In it I discovered a post by a user who was Muslim that stated:



"In 2002 during the Islamic month of Ramadan on CNN, Americas number one news station, there was a panel composed of four people. 1) Jew 2) Christian 3) Muslim 4) NASA representative. On such month it was discovered by NASA that the MOON seemed as though it was two pieces and it was suggested that if it was so that man could have not done it but God Himself. The question was posed to all members if there was anything in their scripture to support the idea that the MOON could have been two pieces. No one but the Muslim was able to give an account on the matter. So, whoever does not accept the idea that The Moon was two pieces once does not accept CNN, NASA, or even GOD."

Deep down, I KNOW there must be a rational explanation to this.

I appreciate everyone's help in advance!

Look at this cool kafir answer

Simple - the Moon's NOT "Split", although NASA does postulate that the moon WAS split from the earth in times past.

"Deep down, I KNOW there must be a rational explanation to this."

Sure is!! - it never happened. Problem solved!!!

Associated question: If Mohammed "Split" the moon, who re-assembled it??

"So, whoever does not accept the idea that The Moon was two pieces once does not accept CNN, NASA, or even GOD."

And just when you KNOW it can't get any sillier - it does!!!!

May Allah keep u always standing for the Truth.

[StopS]

Originally Posted by 3abdurrahman

Assalam alaikum


I came across a person who wanted to make fun of muslims who believe this and see what he said at a Kufr forum

If you posted the full quote then I don't see this person making fun of anyone. This was stating reality and facts.

What is true is that some sceptics see the Koran as a religious book and don't understand why it is being measured by the standards of science. A religious text contains signs, metaphors or allegories, not scientifically valuable facts like a science textbook.

I have been confronted with this claim of the moon having been split and I could not find any evidence for this. I contacted NASA and asked one of the guys responsible for lunar missions and who was also quoted by a Muslim as having confirmed the story and this NASA employee flat out denied any kind of evidence for such a claim.

I think I would take the Koran as a religious book and take the splitting of the moon rather as an allegoric comparison of the power of a god who could even split a moon, if necessary. Not that it physically or actually happened.

[mjamalv]

Originally Posted by StopS

I think I would take the Koran as a religious book and take the splitting of the moon rather as an allegoric comparison of the power of a god who could even split a moon, if necessary. Not that it physically or actually happened.

There are many Islamic scholars who subcribe to the view that the moon was never split in two during the lifetiime of the Prophet, but will occur near/at the Day of Judgment. Muhammed Asad has given the following explanation after his translation of the verse of the Quran, “THE LAST HOUR draws near, and the moon is I split asunder” (54:1) as per the following

Most of the commentators see in this verse a reference to a phenomenon said to have been witnessed by several of the Prophet's contemporaries. As described in a number of reports going back to some companions, the moon appeared one night as if split into two distinct parts. While there is no reason to doubt the subjective veracity of these reports, it is possible that what actually happened was an unusual kind of partial lunar eclipse, which produced anequally unusual optical illusion. But whatever the nature of that phenomenon, it is practically certain that the above Qur'an-verse does not refer to it but, rather, to a future event: namely, to what will happen when the Last Hour approaches. (The Qur'an frequently employs the past tense to denote the future, and particularly so in passages which speak of the coming of the Last Hour and of Resurrection Day; this use of the past tense is meant to stress the certainty of the happening to which the verb relates.) Thus, Raghib regards it as fully justifiable to interpret the phrase inshaqqa 'l-qamar ("the moon. is split asunder") as bearing on the cosmic cataclysm - the end of the world as we know it - that will occur before the coming of Resurrection Day (see art. shaqq in the Mufradat). As mentioned by Zamakhshari, this interpretation has the support of some of the earlier commentators; and it is, to my mind, particularly convincing in view of the juxtaposition, in the above Qur'an-verse, of the moon's "splitting asunder" and the approach of the Last Hour. (In this connection we must bear in mind the fact that none of the Qur'anic allusions to the "nearness" of the Last Hour and the Day of Resurrection is based on the human concept of "time".)


The Quran uses the past tense, as if that Day were already here, to help the reader/listener imagine how it will be. It is to experience that Day as if it were already here. Again, the translation says "The Hour draws near; the moon is split in two." What Hour is Allah speaking of? Clearly, throughout the Qur'an Allah refers to the Day of Judgment in many ways (Day of Decision, Day of Truth, Hour of Truth, etc.) and the Hour is another reference to the Day of Judgment.

In fact, when the unbelievers requested a miracle from the prophet, the reply from the prophet was the following;

"They say: "We shall not believe in thee, until thou cause a spring to gush forth for us from the earth, Or (until) thou have a garden of date trees and vines, and cause rivers to gush forth in their midst, carrying abundant water; Or thou cause the sky to fall in pieces, as thou threatened* against us; or thou bring Allah and the angels before (us) face to face: Or thou have a house adorned with gold, or thou mount a ladder right into the skies. No, we shall not even believe in thy mounting until thou send down to us a book that we could read." Say: "Glory to my Lord! Am I aught but a man- a messenger?" (Ch. 17:Ver. 90-93)

[LionOfAllah]

^^ Akhi on your part that is dishonest, the hadith regarding the moon splitting are Sahih. Don't suck up to StopS

StopS when did you become a muffassir? Why do you seem to make everything in the Quran allegorical when it is not? Even if there is no signs that the moon split we Muslims still believe it did. Tell me, the one who created the moon, can he not make it split and than cause to join back without letting any blemishes or any cracks to be apparent? Of course Al Khaliq can do that. However, you telling me you called someone is not proof for me, bring me evidence, bring me names, NASA is big and is not some small time thing, there must be a lot of information that NASA has not disclosed yet, not even to there own employees.

[3abdurrahman]

Originally Posted by mjamalv

(The Qur'an frequently employs the past tense to denote the future, and particularly so in passages which speak of the coming of the Last Hour and of Resurrection Day; this use of the past tense is meant to stress the certainty of the happening to which the verb relates.)

Does the Ayah refer to the fact that the moon will split before the destruction of the world ?

Ali Unal's commentary - Surah Qamar 54:1:

"Some modern commentators claim that the verse refers to the fact that the moon will split before the destruction of the world.

However, the second verse rejects this assertion. The signs to appear before the destruction of the world will decisively prove that the Last Hour has come and this is the time when the world will be destroyed.

But the second verse clearly says that the unbelievers reacted to the splitting of the moon by claiming that it was sorcery, and they showed the same reaction to many similar signs.

Hasan al-Basri and 'Ata' ibn ar-Rabah, who asserted that the moon would split before the destruction of the world, did not deny the occurrence of this miracle as evidence of the Prophethood of Muhammad,, in Makkah."

Originally Posted by LionOfAllah

NASA is big and is not some small time thing, there must be a lot of information that NASA has not disclosed yet, not even to there own employees.

NASA & the miracle !

A spider web of cracks on the crater floor suggested to R. B. Baldwin (1968) that the floor was bowed up in the middle. Later, dark mare lavas flooded low areas in the outer part of the floor and covered the cracks. A peculiar "bull's eye" double crater on the crater floor has several counterparts elsewhere on the Moon. The origin of these double craters is a continuing puzzle.-K.A.H.
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch5.6.htm

هذه القطعة الانجليزية توضح ان هناك شبكة عنكبوتية من الشقوق وانه في فترة لاحقة اغرقت الحمم مناطق منخفضة في الجزء الخارجي للارضية وغطت الشقوق اذا فمن الواضح ان ناسا اكتشفت شقوقا واضحة بالقمر وليست اودية فقط كما تدعون وطبعا هذه الشقوق كما يقولون غطت بالحمم البركانية اى ان ما ظهر لهم من الشق ظهر والباقي مغطى بالحمم ومن ينتظر من النصارى وغيرهم ان يجدوا شق كامل يأخذ القمر من قطره باكمله فهو جاااااااااااهل لان معنى هذا ما يلى

اما ان تحفر ناسا القمر باكمله الى ان تخرج من الناحية الاخرى او ان تجد فتحة فى القمر من الشرق الى الغرب

وما دامت الشقوق قد غطت بالحمم فان معالم الشق الاصلي قد اختفت وتحتاج لوقت كبير حتى تظهر
ولكن المؤمن يعلم ان الله قد ترك تلك الشقوق علامة على انه قد حدث ما هو اعظم ادى الى حدوث تلك الشقوق
وهذه الشقوق العظيمة الغير معروف سببها تقرها ناسا في تقاريرها

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The origin of lunar sinuous rilles remains controversial. Among the alternatives proposed are lava channels and lava tubes, but fracture control is decidedly apparent in some places

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch6.2.htm

وهذا دليل اخر على ان تلك الاودية الموجودة على سطح القمر انما نشأت من ظاهرة كسر وقد كانوا يعتقدون ان الوادي تكون من خلال اما قنوات من الحمم البركانية او ان الوادى تكون من مسار مائي (مثل وادى النيل مثلا) ولكن الظاهرة المسيطرة هي ظاهرة كسر

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/hrp190.jpg

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The V shaped rille originates in a cleft at the base of the mountains in the south

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/hrp193.jpg

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch6.2.htm

احد الوديان الذي تشكل ينشأ في شق في قاعدة الجبل في الجنوب ارأيتم؟ شق في قاعدة الجبل:اي ان هناك شقوق وليست فقط وديان

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In many places the lunar surface is broken and a portion is downdropped, forming trenchlike features known as straight rimae or rilles. Some of these rilles are large enough (tens of kilometers across) to be visible on Earth

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch6.3.htm
القمر مشقوق في العديد من الاماكن ،وجزء اخر سقط (اي انهار الى اسفل ) شكل اخاديد المعروفة باسم الاودية المستقيمة ويا ريت ناخد بالنا من كلمة (اخاديد المعروفة باسم الاودية المستقيمة او ريلز وهنا ناسا تطلق على الاودية او(ريلز)Rillesكلمة اخدود اى ان هذه الاودية في الاصل عبارة عن شقوق وتحولت الى اوديه نظرا لمرور الحمم البركانية فيها كما اوضحنا فى النص السابق حينما اشرنا الى انهم قالوا بانها اودية بسبب مرور الحمم البركانية فيها واستبعدوا ان يكون قد مر بها ماء نظرا لبعد تكوين قشرة القمر عن الماءوطبعا النصارى بيقولوا ان كلمة ريلز ملهاش دعوة بشقوق القمر في حين انه معروف جدا ان الاخدود ما هو الا انشقاق في ارضية شئ ما وهذا الشق او الاخدود اذا ملأته الماء اصبح وادى واذا كان كبيرا نسبيا وملأته الماء اصبح بحرا تماما مثل ظاهرة الاخدود الافريقي الذى كون البحر الاحمر فالبحر الاحمر مجرد شق نتج عن عدة زلازل و سمي بالاخدود الافريقي

يقولون والبعض من هذه الاودية يمتد الى عشرات الكيلو مترات وهى كبيرة بدرجة كافية لان تكون مرئية على الارض

اي يمكن ان ترى هذه الاخاديد من على الكرة الارضية
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Some of these trenches cut across the surrounding plains, uplands, and craters and may record preferred directions of breakage of the lunar crust caused by internal stresses

بعض هذه الخنادق كون السهول المحيطة وقد تسجل اتجاهات مفضلة من كسر بالقشرة القمرية سببها اجهاد داخلي و هوه هوه نفس الرابط اللى فات وطبعا اجهاد داخلي يعنى حاجة حصلت فى قلب القمر من الداخل
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Sinuous rilles are now thought to be remnants of ancient lava flows, but the origins of arcuate and linear rilles are still a topic of research.
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap021029.html

ما زال اصل هذه الاودية الخطية (يعنى اللى مش ملتوية) موضوع البحث

(وطبعا احنا عارفين ان الاودية الخطية دى هيه الاخاديد اللى قالوا عليها فوق)

الرابط رقم3فى نفس الصفحة:
http://search.nasa.gov/search/search...ynote&x=43&y=8

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Many trenches are curvilinear; some appear to be transitional between straight rilles and sinuous rilles.-H.M.
http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch6.3.htm

الى كل من يقول ان جميع الشقوق مقوسة وملتوية فقط وانه ليس هناك شقوق مستقيمة اليه :ا العديد من الخنادق تبدو انتقالية ما بين اخاديد مباشرة واخاديد ملتوية
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The crater floor is typical of those that exhibit both radial and concentric cracks, or fissures. The fissures and cracks appear to be related to the uplift of the crater floor subsequent to the formation of the crater.

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch6.3.htm

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/hrp201.jpg

شقوق تانية متفرقة بداخل حفرة قطرها200كيلو متر ويقولون انها تعرض كل من الشقوق الشعاعية والمركزية او شقوق وتبدو هذه الشقوق والانشقاقات (يذكرون اكثر من لفظ لكلمة شقوق )ولم يقولوا عليها ريلز......

تبدو هذه الشقوق متعلقة بارتفاع ارضية الحفرة اللاحق الى تشكيل الحفرة او قد تكون بسبب تدخل الحمم تحت ارضية الحفرة

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This detailed view of a mare surface near the eastern edge of Mare Serenitatis, just west of the Apollo 17 landing site, shows the numerous small grooves. They are unusual features that have not been observed in such large numbers elsewhere

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch6.3.htm

السفينة ابوللو17 وجدت اخاديد صغيرة عديدة بطريقة غير عادية والتى لم تلاحظ بمثل هذه الاعداد الكبيرة في مكان اخر
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A likely explanation is that they are the result of drainage of unconsolidated regolith into openings caused by fissuring in the consolidated bedrock

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch6.3.htm

وحفرت سلاسل تأثير ثانوية من المحتمل ان تفسر بأنها نتيجة تصريف ريجوليث غير مدعومة الى الافتتاحيات سببه

الأنشقاق في حجر الاساس المدعوم

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النص اللى جاي بيشرح ظاهرة انخفاض على سطح القمر ويقول:

ان حالات الانخفاض المصطفة على السطح في الغالب من300الى400متر عرض ومن30الى60متر عمق وان الامتدادات الاعمق الثلاثة بطول2كيلو متر وحوالي50الى65متر عمق وحالات الانخفاض هذه من المحتمل انها كانت مكان انفجارات شق بازلت السطح وان انسحاب الحمم الى الشق لربما خلق فراغات السطح الثانوية التى فيها حدث الانهيار فسبب حالات الانخفاض وفسر غياب الحافات المرفوعة على حالات الانخفاض

ومعنى الكلام ده ان كان في شق اصلا حدث من انفجار طبقة البازلت وبعد ان خرجت الحمم من الشق عادت اليه مرة اخرى مكونة هذا الفراغ السطحى او الانخفاض وان انسحاب تلك الحمم( والتى هى عبارة عن سوائل)الى الشق مرة اخرى هو السبب في غياب حافات حالة الانخفاض

وادى الرابط بالصورة بالنص المكتوب

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch7.1.htm

رابط الصورة

http://history.nasa.gov/SP-362/ch7.1.htm

وعموما اللى مش مقتنع بعد كل ده ان القمر انشق في عهد النبي ::::::::بنقوله::::

متزعلش نفسك اهو القرآن اخبرنا ان القمر مشقوق وخلاص

فى عهد النبي بقى او قبله او بعده اهو خبر لم يرد عليه اى كتاب إلا في القران الكريم

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As you said bro, we don't need any of this to believe !

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